the best type of cra since the update Hiya people since i saw a poll for the farming i thougth i would make a poll. since ive seen so many cras around since the last update i wonderd wth are they gunna turn into really i wnna hear yoiur thougths

atm cha,int,agi and wis seem like the best type atm comon people keep these poll votes coming

This post has been edited by Uku-koashi: 24 Oct 2009, 21:09

Gogo lack of hybrids in the poll.

um wtf?!?! that really doesnt make any sense gogo back? and plus im not putting hybirds cause there put of str or agi so dont post a useless reply like this agian here

...What.

I couldn't make any sense of your reason to not put hybrids in the poll.


Edit - Oh yeah, and you don't own this place; don't tell me where not to reply.

This post has been edited by GenericNickname: 4 Oct 2009, 12:19

dude what your putting is spam andf hybirds is dmg you nimrod or maby you havnt noticed so grow up and stop postying when you dnt really know what your talkign about.
and i dont even see why your having to post in this topic i mean no1 has asked you if you wanted hybirds in a poll then you make 1 cause i dont like little spam addicts like you wasting time. so next time you have a thougth dont post it here make your own topic and do so and btw no is even asking you for why didnt put hybirds in the polls the reason is simple i said what type dmg counts as hybirds

This post has been edited by Uku-koashi: 4 Oct 2009, 13:03

....How the hell does damage count as all hybrids? A +damage build would no way be the same as every hybrid possible. E.g. int/agi isn't damage, and your poll only allows to pick one option; you've made a poll which doesn't include every option; if someone thinks any sort of hybrid cra is the best type of cra, there's no option in the poll they can pick.

Could you put a little more effort into making your next post readable? You know, correct spelling, some vague semblance of grammar (rather than every word just running onto the next one, making it a hard to read wall of text).

Additionally, I'm not spamming; I'm trying to have a reasonable discussion as to why hybrids should be on the poll, however my efforts are being hampered by you. Being rude is entirely unnecessary too.

Oh, and one last thing

From your typing I'm willing to bet I'm older than you are, and also I assure you I do know what I'm talking about.

um are you a perv? beting that you older then me ffs just shut up ok cause all your doing is spam no1 is asking you to look or either type in this if ya dont shut up ill jsut make a new 1 so jebi se

and when you put no1 can pick that option maby because its mainly useless heres an idea how about you go and make your own poll with it and stop spamin g cause you are 1 hell of a noob tbh so i would like it very much if you pissed of

This post has been edited by Uku-koashi: 5 Oct 2009, 09:32

ok heres where im at im sick of you noob you really need to get a life so im makin a new poll if you post in that 1 without reading whats said at the start then you must be the bigest noob ever so im out of here if you post in here anymore what r u acculy achiving after im not looking anymore so i think its time for you to grow up and get a life dude cause tbh you are that sad to not know when your wrong

...You make a poll on a public forum asking for people to pick their favourite, then when someone points out their favourite isn't one of the options, you tell them they're an idiot and for them to stop posting?

1) This is a public forum, you've no business telling people to not post; you don't own this thread.
2) I only said that I'm probably older than you because you told me to grow up. As it is, it looks like it's you who needs to grow up.
3) You said that all the other hybrid builds aren't on the poll because they're useless. If you already know what's useless and what isn't, surely you wouldn't need to make the poll. As it is, you made the poll (and then a second one), therefore you don't know what's the best and what isn't, and if someone wants to pick something that isn't there, surely that means it *isn't* useless?
4) How the hell did you manage to turn a completely non-confrontational comment regarding the lack of hybrid builds in the poll into an abuse fest vs. me?
5) You're calling me a spammer? I'm the one making calm replies, where you're the one going 'shut up noob' constantly, though with worse spelling than that.
6) You make an opinion poll, therefore I'm wrong because my opinion is something that's not on the poll? What makes you the judge of that?


Can we get a third opinion in here? I don't think this is going to go anywhere constructive otherwise? Well, I suspect it still won't, but still.

Ah yes, the topic at hand.

I'm naturally biased to my own build, which is int/agi, which I do believe is a good build. It's a bit weak at the last levels (170+?) due to the lack of int/agi gear at those levels, but so long as 1v1 pvp isn't your main focus I think there's nothing wrong with being int/agi at those levels (I'm 187 myself, still running around in a ceremonial set, sigh).
Agility is always useful for dodging & locking, and you get a nice complement of spells as int/agi, without severe limitations. (Also come 1.29 there's that neat fire/air damage for 3ap spell that replaced eagle eye that I always forget about). I think int/agi cras are very survivable; the int (and +heals) means that, in situations where it's actually needed, you can have a reasonable effective healing glyph with cawwot, healing maybe 50 to 70 at level 5 of it? I forget. Add to that the agi meaning you can dodge nasty cc stuff, or lock something next to yourself to stop it harassing the rest of your team/escaping, and you can sit there tanking something for a while. The new minimum range on absorptive is a little annoying with that, as previously you could heal off what you're tanking too. Now all you need is to hit something else further away instead, and given the buff to absorptive's damage that's not something I'm going to complain about.

Having retreat arrow do relevant damage is another bonus; back when I was pure int, having to cast retreat arrow always seemed like a bit of a waste of the 4ap; sure it kept something away, but maybe I could've kept away by playing slightly differently, and got to hit that turn properly. Now, I don't have to worry about that at all, with retreat arrow doing not too bad damage. The other spells (plaguing arrow, frozen arrow and 1.29 magic arrow) all have their uses too, and it's nice to be doing decent damage with them too. Oh yeah explosive arrow, don't really need to say much about that. My damage with it is pretty meh really, but it's okay; I've got absorptive/magic (which *will* be 1/2 soon as DP actually gives me a turq)/various other spells for single targets.

Another advantage of being int/agi is that you get to use the purple sword! (Fuchsia).

Prior to 1.29, the only spell I felt the need to cast that wasn't in one of my elements was lashing arrow, which still did 60ish damage, which isn't abysmal for something I have about 1 single point of in strength. Now I can see myself wanting to cast atonement occasionally and paralzying (bat's is nice too on grouped targets, though bow skill and powerful shooting make it do damage enough to be worthwhile on a small group already). The chance spells are all nice, but none of them are really useful as a main attack. I could see someone going int/cha with gladiator bworker, with all points on int (both int & cha scrolled to 101 first), and a hybrid turkey and using int spells as general purpose attacks and bat's, slowdown, paralyzing and atonement as more situational attacks and being pretty effective though. I dunno. Int/cha is probably pretty good at 190+, but I still think int/agi is more versatile, and would be better if there was a similar strength int/agi set at that level (which is the sort of thing that might get implemented when they do the ice continent, or at least I hope it is).

and you know its odd when ever ium right my post gets deleted by this same mod im gunna report him for just well picking on me and yes its publickizd jsut as you publikized my warning

well before he replys back im gunna say this im not considering hybirds in the polls or any other cra you are aloud to add that in your own but i wanna see what people think is the BEST OUT OF THESE LOT not 1s thats i dont wanna see

None of the above. Im all about the hybrids baby.

update in the polls

Probably Cha/Wis/Agi.
I saw one of those a while back. Totally owned.
AP/MP Raped incredibly without problem, dealt out massive damage with SD Arrow/Atonement/Para.
Then when you got him to about 50% HP, started to heal it back off Absorp.

IMO, out of those stuff, Int. Or Cha. Or agi.
When you rule out hybrids people find it much harder to pick, as usually hybrid builds will have the upper hand against most others.
Also, Lolage at Arm vs Uku.

Man u cant go wrong with int cras infact where are they all i bearlly see 1