Will PvP statistics ever be published? Although I dislike nerfs in general, I really like the fact that the current rebalancing originates from solid battle stats, and not from players whining and complaining. I would just like to request that the stats for characters participating in Headhunter are made public.

A suggested format:

Server, class, lvl range
% of participants in Headhunter quest
% of wins
% of wins against each class

Example (with random numbers):

Rosal, Cra, 50-100
Cras make up 5% of fighters
They win 36% of all battles on average.
Detailed: vs. Eca 34% wins, vs. Eni 16% wins, vs. Feca 20% wins....


Can we ever hope for such publication? Or is Ankama actually benefiting from us not knowing, as people get very emotional over PvP.

I also made a thread suggesting other stats that could be published, some to drive competition between players and servers:
http://forum.dofus.com/en/game-development...ers-t74278.html

The chosen build, equipment and spells leveled would factor into calculating which classes need adjusting. The average time taken for the class to complete a fight may need to be examined so that an appropriate change can be made.

I would like to hear back from Ankama on this, but I suppose with no Community Manager and no Ankama staff controlling these forums, it's highly unlikely.

-MaryMoo

This would be nice though. To have a record of you winning or losing ^^

It's not about the individual, and your results will only account for a very minute fraction of the percentages. It has to do with all players who participate in PvP together. The results you witness if and when they are published are not necessarily the results you accumulate on your own.

-MaryMoo

An individual's record should probably also be recorded and visible in the ladder. I mean if you can check on a website how many tofus someone defeated during last week, why not show how many xelors?

I don't think ankama would publish the statistics. Cause if they did, then people would know what ankama would have to do and would blame them from not doing so.

Per example, enus would score pretty badly on it (i'm pretty sure about that), but ankama would never boost enus.

Didn't they post something about boosting cras next?

Yes, Even so if they did publish the pvp statistics, it wouldnt change anything. People would still cry nerf nerf nerf, and other people would try to defend their class. Again.

I would also like some PvM statistics like How many times were the different dungeons run per month before 1.27 and how many times per month after 1.27 those would be interesting.Because you know that there would not be any difference just ask the pro PvP lets nerf a class crowd they will tell you that the balancing for PvP isn't hurting PvM at all.

This post has been edited by LordGreyDragon: 31 Aug 2009, 04:29

i would love to know how many people died in the boss fight of BR like 1-2 days after his instant kill spell was fixed

easy to avoid, but if people wasn't expecting it ^^

I actually like the current ladder, with ranked lvl, xp, proffessions, even what mobs the given player exped on, but a few more additional stats (both PvP and PVE) would be even better.

One more stat I though of is sort of the reverse of the current ladder - the number of players defeated by a certain monster or boss.

Im all for this. I would enjoy to look at more statistics such as the ones Bujax and LordGreyDragon mentioned. If changes (nerfs) happen no matter what players say, then it wont make a difference if these statistics are made available to players.

This is pretty much what I was going to say and you're right on enus too (but the drops make up for it). Even posting stats for pre-balanced classes would create a precendent that make full disclosure difficult to avoid.

However, I found the stats from Goult challenges interesting and would appreciate Ankama throwing us a tidbit here and there: xelor 1v1 stats please.

Hello

Ankama won't publish the pvp statistic.
They use those statistic to try for the re-balancing, but wont publish that.
(in order to avoid systematic whining against the top pvp class, and perhaps for other reasons)

For the Goultarminator , some points are soon in discussion (about the last hammer , shields, supremacy of the combo of sacrier and osamoda, ...)
http://forum.dofus.com/fr/evolutions-f1083...i--t297606.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...fr&ie=UTF-8 (google translation)


Regards
Agora

Thanks for the link Agora, it was an intersting read (now I'm considering switching my heal-bot eni for an osa).

It's too bad that none of the devs participated in the discussion.

Maybe you should also post the link in the General Discussion forum so it gets a bit more attention.


Also, isn't there systematic whining already about the top classes? If stats were public and balanced, the arguments would be clear: "stop whining, your class wins only 5% less often then the top class" or "you're right to complain, no class should fall more than 15% behind other classes"