Opinions about f2p getting alignment. I know there is a "We want more f2p content" thread but the only difference is that this one has a poll option. I like to see how many of you people think about the questions on the poll.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 3 Oct 2009, 00:32

They don't deserve alignments. Now they're going to grind crackrocks til 40 and then stand at 5,-23 spamming it up fighting each other.

If ankama was going to give them more content the least they could have done is give us p2pers more content. So if that's how it's going to be then I want my money back for I have explained why I feel like I got ripped off.


Not only that but:
-If they get tracked and win they gain good wing and xp.
-Get shields.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 4 Oct 2009, 02:15

Well with the emphasis on PvP and the way they are driving away Pvm players they are starting to feel a pinch with fewer PvM players renewing subscriptions they need to

A. rethink their everything for PvP policy

or

B. try to get noobs into PvP and hope they subscribe

Thing is the who do you think is going to subscribe the longest the PvP player or a PvM player with tailor/jeweler/shoemaker as professions. Who is going to make a long term effort, Ankama forgot who. Time will tell

Well am hoping the Brak NPC at Astrub Bank will give the brakmarian population a huge boost.

I'd love one day to log in and see Bonta sellrooms with more than a mere 20 slots. :/

This post has been edited by RikkiL: 1 Oct 2009, 23:09

i dont think its really about f2ps getting more content and being able to pvp, i couldnt give a rats fart really

its more the fact that, why would they subscribe for p2p benifits when all they would do different is actually have the ability to get a headhunter quest themselves?

if a p2p is quite happy to stand at 5 - 23 and let people come to him, why would a non member pay for it?

this wont entice people to subscribe at all, this will just make life a little better for those who don't want too

If this game is turning into PvP then f2p got just about everything they want. Oh and I asked a whole lot of people why they subscribe and mostly they told me it's PvP.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 1 Oct 2009, 23:43

Yep, amkama is desparte for this game to become PvP. What they have done is stupid, and will stop people from getting ptp, caused most of the time, they get ptp to get aligment. but now they made that F2p, people arent gonna, wanna suscribe as much.

This is going to cost them more money, then is will earn them...

You should fix the wording on the section question.. I accidently picked no, because I thought it said; "Do you think its fair that p2p gets no new content but f2p does"


Turns out that fair was unfair


*Travis

Well. Even though I am an F2P (waiting 'til I can get a sub really), I'd say giving F2P an Alignment Feature isn't good, no. It's too much to give to them, and, well..I'd rather not see noobs agressing other noobs or non-combatants too. On the second question, yesh. P2P needs a lot of new content! Bring it on, Ice Continent and other stuff!

Regards,
Irrid

This post has been edited by Irrid: 3 Oct 2009, 03:03

I want to know what they are going to do with the stroken they earn when they happen to win. f2p will be at a disadvantage to p2p stroken farmer thanks to no pets/mounts and worse gear. So I don't see them winning a LOT but the times they do, how will they exchange stroken for scrolls and such? The xp is silly though..now will have lv 100+ pure f2p running around.

omg desperate ppl, now f2p's got alignemnt, the game becomes more dangerous like it should be. omg =/. lol and im looking at the content bar and ppl think its fair that f2ps get more things too.

Game didn't get more dangerous for p2p as most f2p won't be able to compete with p2p of their levels simply due to the lack of mounts/pets and decent equips. That being said it is frusterating that f2p, FREELOADERS getting more content while p2p- People who Pay so that f2p can play like freeloaders- get none.

omfg u are right mounts and pets have a huge influence( lie) . Wrose equips? lol, who sayd? who can't buy form trading channel? omg . of and that let p2ps get honour from pvping f2ps then. or, let them do what they want.

p2p is what keeps dofus alive. No point giving f2ps everything, if its going to force dofus to shut down. f2p does not need anything more, get p2p, if you want more content. What amakama should be getting is content for the epic players.

And stop omging

This post has been edited by simomate: 3 Oct 2009, 00:02

More F2P content = Less P2P = Less Profit = No more Dofus

Common Sense.

Oh my god!!!!!!! Beg beg beg!!!! Are you f2ps ever satisfied at all???????

I have more screenshots and one I just took on my sadida if you guys can't understand it. I will pull it out if I have to.

You might need to zoom in to be able to read it.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 3 Oct 2009, 01:02

why ppl here don;t understand anything

its like 1+1.

More f2p content- more f2p wasting time- more populated game- more interest to p2ps to subscribe- more p2ps.

*snorts* Like PvP is gonna attract more people to the actual game itself. and half the people who suscribe only do it for PvP. Now that they dont have to suscribe to get it...

Some happen to enjoy PvP, and many will attract to DOFUS if Ankama markets a good PvP system.

Sophidian ^^

To be able to market one they will have to create one first.

i dont see the big deal.

1. it may actually help the brak market. MAY.
2. its not like they can do any of the quests. its just for pvp.

id be more annoyed if they gave them something like an extra area or the pets back

It seems there are two things you don't undrstand:

-English
-How badly this game is affected with f2ps gaining more content.

Most of everyone subscribe just so they can PvP and since you f2p got that content hardly anyone will pay meaning this game will shut down. For crying out loud I've repeated this like 3 times and you are purposely ignoring me to avoid the fact that you can't make a valid argument.



-xdark-osamodax

I made a f2p eca, and I'm now on a bot purification crusade.

If that's true, then there would be the most p2p players if all the game content was available to f2p players, but obviously, that's not the case.

I don't even understand the whole system. Is it just brak?

If Bonta is the major alignment on your server, then you can only go Brak, and the other way around.

ah I get it now, they are balancing out PvP, wont work though, but how is it balanced, when its full of low levels?

*Blood-Lover

This post has been edited by simomate: 7 Oct 2009, 09:26

its about the time to create nice PvP zone for p2p training; finally a good reason to visit f2p area.

How, if they are f2p?

Nothing will fix the brak markets unless you merge them with the bonta markets. Feel free to flame, complain, make up theories, go bonkers or whatever, but the brak markets will still only get fixed if they are merged with the bonta ones. Everything ankama ever did to fix the brak markets, be it their automatic sellrooms balancing measure, the join-less-popular-alignment-measures or whatever, failed.



I see. Flooding brak with tons of f2p noobs. Way to go, ankama. :/

As if it was not already bad enough that every noob went brak because of the PvM bonuses, now our alignment is completely turning into a kindergarten. Way to turn brak into a second bonta...

Hmmm...

Fuck this update. I always get ganged by f2p-ers.

This post has been edited by Clawesome: 12 Oct 2009, 17:30

Ive yet to be ganged by f2pers but i think the lvl cap of boredom keeps them from slaughtering me.

yeh dont go to that map above astrub anymore

u will be ganged

When you get ganged with wings down, do your wings pop up? If yes damn. If no I can finally do something fun

Sometimes I'll stand at 5,-23 and try to convince aligned players I'm of the opposite alignment.

i do that, i have a gobball hat/cape in my inventory especially for the occasion

I dont know why they cant raise up the aligment to 50 , to be more easy and not get ganged by all newbs.And more bontas all braks are on f2p area and all bontas on p2p area , a lot of guys what get bonta aligment they got doomed bc newbs atack them , or they agroo little levs (lev 60 vs 25 was happen to me and i was close to kill him), or to gang bc they dont know to fight!

This post has been edited by CatsCra: 13 Oct 2009, 08:30

I saw you do that to a level 2X Osa. Took you a while to convince him. He probably should have been smart enough not to be convinced at all. I can't remember if he got rid of the dishonor point in the end, but he kept coming back and trying. Was he f2p?

I have an f2p aligned character. Wings are staying firmly down until I get p2p and much higher level. I get to look around more places, and I discovered that the Bonta guards wouldn't aggro me, even with my wings up. Not much use since I can't do anything there until I go p2p, but it means I can still explore unrestricted as long as I am f2p.

My fav aligment is becoming noobie, filled with forever free players

Take a look at the poll, so many f2p noobs visit the forum.

Yep.

look at the pool, so many p2p rasist noobs visit the forum.

bla bla bla, dont cry if noobs got more f2p content, obsviously, i made this with my alt ( cos i was banned) and im proud of it.
More f2p aligned players- more chalanging , and more stroken farming.
at least an alingment became like it should be. dangerous.

and thats the reward if u dont accept the anti gang weap i proposed:P

btw they cant do quests.

ankama is very imprevisibble, they dont care about dumb nubs that payed and got what they payed for free.
whats the matter? bad luck, friends.

oh a tip for every1 :crakrock cave is for p2p( that with kiss) u can hide there from alignemnt attacks coz its p2p area xP

everyone has now immunity in p2p area

finally getting an alignment and raise it means bravity, not honour buying or something like.

if u cant defend urself vs gangs, and if u cant survive in this game, become neutral again. or leave( if this game seem too dangerous 4 u)

end of story.

@thisgameizfun dude u sent that noob pm to urself , by multi account method.

very funny. they beg and they got what they wanted. dude just shut up if u see things are now vs u.

and i made an impression about how much u think( posting a ninja topic with a spell that deals 600-800 damage, daah dude u are retarded sorry 4 telling) that spell wil cause x10 iop wrath damage with the tail monster active or not.

if a wonder happens and a sac gains magic blesses, +3000 vit by goddes sacrier the ninja noob can still kill by 1 hit ( lets not forget the other spells)


and u all think my english is crappy and im a 8-year old kid
i dont have time for ur craps , but for dofus.
oh, and btw i dont even care.

end of story(2)

corrected the spelling mistakes :S hope ur satisfated now

end of story(3)

This post has been edited by kokimura: 16 Oct 2009, 18:59

I couldn't understand anything, but,

If you want to PvP you should get p2p, it's not that much believe me.

I think that this is the worst update ever. Look at how many noobs with disgrace points are in game now. If you aggro one of them, they automatically gang you. I wouldn't be so angry if there would be a limit (+50 lvl!).

And why are the paying players dumb? Because they pay to have some advantages?

I recommend you to try 1 week p2p and then talk

i did:P

Sorry if ur norvegian or something. i dont know that language

they could get that for free, but they can get advantages too.

i tried 2 p2ps for ur opinion

tell me 1 mistake on what i wrote and i give u all my kamas

-koki

I just did the first sentence, but I don't want your kamas.

This post has been edited by Buggabug: 16 Oct 2009, 20:23

yeah, true :S dont is don't woah u cant understand the word? cmon.
i I woah.. huge one..
you norvegian, ur norvegian. i dont find the mistake

You are unaware how hard it is to read lower cased proper nouns, perhaps you are not English first language and your native tongue do not capitalize proper nouns.

It is Norwegian, not Norvegian. With a w not a v, and all your leet speak makes it very hard to read, as well as randomly crossed words that are not real sentences. It is just difficult to read on this thread, though when you get into your flaming modes you do write better English, so I am not sure why. Perhaps it is the level of irritability.


That being said, f2p having wings does not make it more dangerous for p2p, it just makes it more annoying to have waited 2 years for new content we pay for and f2p getting a boon. Plus we have more whiners coming onto the forums "so and so beat me I am level 30 they shouldn't beat me nerf!" etc and so forth.

It was just a bad business decision on Ankama's part.

Easy for a freeloader like you to say. Also you have no evidence that I pm myself, I have more friends whining about f2p needing more content and I take screenshot of every one of them. Also I only have one program running not two. I block names because puting out players name in screenshot is NOT allowed. Also I paid for this game so I have my rights to complain all I want. You however never paid and have no understanding of why f2p gaining more is a bad idea. Once you get older you will realise why things in life cost money.

We pay for this game and you f2p get the updates and server from us because ankama use our money to pay for them, why don't you guys ever thanks us for that? You guys just beg for more and this is the thanks we get? We're treated like trash here! We subscribers deserve better and more respect! If it weren't for subscribers you wouldn't even be playing this game.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 17 Oct 2009, 16:25

I don't know or honestly care what sparked the spelling war... But I'd suggest strongly that you re-examine your own posts before attempting to correct anothers.

Edit: Although I suppose I AM paying more attention to your incredibly poor grammar then anything else
*Travis

This post has been edited by -Travis--: 17 Oct 2009, 04:01

No I'm not norvegian, and that language is ENGLISH.






All sentences starts with capital letters! I am sorry if your romanian teachers learned you that "hybrid english"

Exactly! You hit the spot again Travis. Before criticizing on someone else's grammar make sure your own is perfect .

Not being a native English speaker is no reason for having poor grammar and spelling. I'm not a native speaker myself, yet my English is pretty darn good. After reading both of your posts my eyes started to hurt . Usually I'm just too lazy to add all the capitalised letters and '.

Anyhow I don't see how being Norwegian would have any affect on not understand what the hell you are typing kokimura. I'm myself Finnish and I do speak both Swedish and Norwegian quite fluently.

This post has been edited by eotkodekff: 17 Oct 2009, 12:04

I suppose I'll join in.

It appears you've missed the placement of an apostrophe. I have bolded the word for you. Would you care for me to mention the full-stops and commas missing in your post?

Sophidian ^^

This post has been edited by Sophidian: 17 Oct 2009, 12:29

Indeed, seeing how English IS my second language I do make atrocious errors. I was speaking 'correcting' only in so much as to prove the point that leet speak constant combined with typo's like mixed letters, example tehm instead of them, in a constant string of sentences was incredibly hard to read....particularly when they typed decent English in other parts of the forum.

i think its safe to say its near impossible not to comment on spelling errors without making some of your own, the lesson is, talk about what there saying, not how they spell it

now to carry on where we left off

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stfu u dumb f2p noob

So um... Where's the kamas?

By the way kokimura. It is evident that this was a bad move by ankama. Now tons of f2p noobs are ganging each other at the pvp map outside astrub. It's so easy to multi account, especially when its f2p. Its only pissing off the real pontential subscribers. When you give an immature little kid power of any sort, what happens? They go screw around and act as assholish as possible until their parents come to take away the toy. Of course dishonor isn't a problem because "What's a f2p character worth?" The only reason why I dont retaliate by slaughtering all of them is because they never seem to aggro me. :<

Sorry I have to keep editing. You just have so many funny little quotes.
@thisgameizfun dude u sent that noob pm to urself , by multi account method.

It looks normal to me. They are all known forum go'ers. Their patterns of speech dont match and never have I ever seen thisgameizfun talking about owning multiaccounting on his behalf. Never.

This post has been edited by Phatballerz: 18 Oct 2009, 09:04

Ah snap, that damn apostrophe got away. And yeah I would <3. That way I can go back, edit my post, and gosh darn it'll look awful perty... on the other hand I don't care... I was merely pointing out the irony of the posters post while adding to that irony with myself.. and I know I did an incredibly better job at speech(yes its sarcasm) then 90% of the posters in this thread.


*Travis

This thread has suddenly become a war, bettween Ptps and F2ps! Lolololol And guys stfu, about people's grammer. They don't have to be perfect in the fourms, perhaps when you are doing something offical, or something, but who cares about grammer in the fourms. As long, as their sentence is easy to understand, there should be no problem

I'll settle with knowing what this word is?

Funny. Nobody I know personally (which I admit is only around 70 or so people) play for PvP. Most of us subscribe for PvM.

I wasn't actually trying to start a war, all I did was ask for an opinion and some of them are sending me negative pms in game and message on forum about this thread.



-xdark-osamodax

Frankly i Find it Nice That Anamaka Finally Put Alignments up For f2p Hell You p2p Players have like Freaking 95% of the Whole Damn Game im Talking Dungeons, A New Class, Bandits, 75% More Items, More Npc's (more quests) Pets, Shields, And Much MUCH more So Stop Complaining That f2p Finally Got Something Nice For a Damn Change, As Well We All Know Anamaka's So Call Support Sucks Ass, And Why Would i Pay if I Cant Even Get a Good Play Time In? And That is My Last Word On The Matter





~Sora
Wolfe~

It isnt a big deal. They can align to only the disadvantaged side, they can't complete alignment quests, can't fully benefit from headhunter, Astrub is locked as neutral territory, and they don't get access to aligned areas.

P2P didn't lose a thing, and f2p is getting a trial of another feature of the game. No problem there.

i dont think its really about f2ps getting more content and being able to pvp, i couldnt give a rats fart really

its more the fact that, why would they subscribe for p2p benifits when all they would do different is actually have the ability to get a headhunter quest themselves?

if a p2p is quite happy to stand at 5 - 23 and let people come to him, why would a non member pay for it?

this wont entice people to subscribe at all, this will just make life a little better for those who don't want too
Shinigamipk for ever

Ok first of all we get 95% of the world because we PAY for it. That was to the poster before Blackpaper.


And Blackpaper, the f2p nubs who get to go, for example on Rosal server is brakmarian then the 'balance' is equaled between alignments by f2p nubs who are lv 20 and do nothing to help promote territory gains..thus we braks who are STILL the minority even if not by numbers lose the benefits Ankama give us to be minority....Lower sellersroom fees, ability to sell more then just 20 lots of things etc and so forth. All due to f2p nubs who can't be arsed to pay, will rarely -if ever- level beyond 100, and sit there at the 'pvp' map above astrub and waste high level p2p time who run through to check percs in astrub by ganging them with 8 lv 20's...not a big issue for me but still so freaking annoying having to spend the time to kill 8 f2p nubs just to check a perc.

Not to incite a fight, but market fees are sorted by the popularity of the sellrooms not the number of aligned members. F2P can't go to either city to affect that. Domination bonuses only apply when prisms are used, but f2p can't place them to affect that either. (source; 1.24? and 1.27 changelogs)

As for percs, well that comes with putting anything or doing anything in the cesspool of Astrub. Scrubbing off some low aggressors is about the same asv(but not the same as) if they just attacked the perc over and over.

Maybe everybody could be happy if Astrub was a non-aggro area completely? F2P being involved is nothing new, by the by. Aligned players (P2P and f2p who were p2p could aggro them. And if they happened to be on a player designated pvp map on a bad day they just might be.)

I dislike f2p who are able to pay, have the disposable income to pay, but won't do either just because and want more. But you can't judge and penalize them all like that.

Respect,
B-P

Let them have it. We have 2 months give or take before the big overhaul, Ankama can't really make anything significantly new to add to the game, lest they create more work for themselves. So of course p2p won't see that much in the way of new content. What Ankama's gameplan with this seems to be is to stretch content that is already in game out to maintain both p2p and f2p members of the community. If they manage to intice f2p to become subscribers in the process, all the better. If a p2p decides to leave because f2p received something this minor, they would have left anyway. You are still getting your steak and red wine (Full Access), the f2p are just getting butter (Limited Alignment) for their free breadsticks (Discovery Mode). Certainly when the kitchen is ready (2.0) you'll get your lobster with it too (New p2p content.)

Ok we got more because we paid. We provide money for updates and servers that you f2p have been getting from us. Again is this the thanks we get? Asking for more and after you f2ps got more you're still unsatisfied? This is ridiculous we p2p get no respect at all.


But f2p got more and what is the point of paying if f2p will get more while p2p don't get more? If people want more content then they should pay to get more content.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 29 Oct 2009, 00:02

Just a last comment.



I'll emphasize that not all F2P who don't pay *can* pay. That's more of a rarity.

As I said, Ankama should take back this update. It's up to no good and I can just see the outcome.

So let's take alignment away from f2p and remove the npc. The moment you become f2p your alignment is stripped. That is senseless. We p2p still have more than f2p could hope to have. This alignment issue is like professions.

And we did get more. 21st spell, headhunter, dopples, mage system revamp, city sellrooms; any of that exclusive and restricted to P2P content ringing a bell? How about the holiday and gm events that take place majorly in p2p areas?

Before you play the they got more card, you'd better at least look at and appreciate what privelages you have in comparison.

I like it. Might help with the bots, too, if f2ps and f2p alts can go around killing them. That's what I did with my old f2p Cra.

But you are missing the point, f2p shouldn't gain any more at all. If ankama keeps adding little by little then you are gaining too much. Maybe you should be happy for what you f2ps have. Shoot if I lose things off being f2p I'll just keep paying.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 30 Oct 2009, 03:29

That doesn't help against bots. For every bots you're hindering, there's three new ones being created at the same time. You're better off not wasting your time with that.

Not having any statistics, however gathered from Posts (by p2p experienced players) here, my general observations in game, and chatting with random people:

21st spells- Many are gimmicky, the ones that are not gimmicky are generally only used in very situational purposes aside from Osa's, Eca's, and Iops. The rest are only used in extremely narrow circumstances, or not used at all. Yes the argument can be made that this is 'new' content but I would put this along with releasing Bandits.


Headhunter- Not new content really, as there has always been pvp 1 v 1...this just made prisms obsolete as its too much of a pain in the ass to pop wings now to do prisms, and from posts here on forums, polls here on forums, and watching 90% of people I know from prisms drop their wings thanks to headhunter it is safe for me to assume that this is generally a disliked addition to the game, at very least it needs revamping. And F2p have access to this as well as they can be targeted, just no getting their own targets...so they still get awesome xp and strokens when they manage to beat a p2p player.

Mage system- Again NOT new content. Just revamped old content.

City Sellersroom- Again NOT new content.

We do not get 'priviledges" as that implies something is given to us. We PAY for content that we have, and we have been begging for actual new content for years now.

Lol, RESPECT.

Like you DESERVE any respect. Most of the p2p community are nothing but a bunch of high and mighty punks. They think they can be disrespectful and insulting just because they paid for the game. Don't expect to receive respect when you don't give it yourself. I don't CARE if you pay for the game or if your money updates it. That's not DESERVING of ''respect''.

P2P already has A LOT, A LOT MORE THAN F2P will EVER have. F2P has 5%, P2P has 95%. There IS a REASON to subscribe.

As to why Ankama added this super small F2P addition is probably because it's not really that much of a big deal. And it shouldn't really be to you either.

Honestly, you're such a baby.

The game will NOT close down. Do you know how much income this game gets from the french community? No doubt, much more than this one. And let's not forget about how not everyone is a baby and not everyone will quit over something this insignificant and silly.

Although to you it might not be ''common sense'' on Ankama's part. But Ankama wouldn't risk losing money with their biggest cash cow. See how this decision benefits them in the long run.

It's BUSINESS sense.

This post has been edited by Mohanus: 2 Nov 2009, 19:51

Oh yea sure let's keep adding 1% each week and when there are 100% then tell me it was just little. I explained what we p2p done to you f2pers and yet you ignored my post. If it weren't for us subscribers you guys non-subscribers wouldn't be playing. You guys already got the demo to help whether you should pay or not another content is never ever whatsoever needed. Our money is used for keeping the game running and new servers in which you guys got from us subscribers so show us subscribers a little thank you for giving you guys the ability to play this game.

You're just another player who doesn't care about what we subscribers done for you guys.



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 3 Nov 2009, 00:40

Really? I go around f2p areas and I don't see them doing crap about bots. All they do is gang and it's really annoying.


Really? Who's the baby? You're replying to someone that makes a good point and I've seen him in game with people around, tgif is highly respected to most people because he deserved them. What do you do? Talk trash and try to make a big deal a small deal and then try to ignore his point. Sure f2p gotten new content but did subscribers get any? No! That is really unfair and will get less people to subscribe because there is a small feature that some people subscribe for which is alignment in which they gained.

This post has been edited by xkoopinatorx: 3 Nov 2009, 02:55

This thread is giving me a headache, but one thing I managed to pick up, was a complaint about f2p and headhunter. Someone said f2p can't get headhunter, and I think someone said that they don't need to, they can be attacked by a headhunter. That's all well and good, but if the f2p wins, they get a big of xp, some kamas, and 2 Strokens. What can f2p do with strokens? Nothing. If they want to do anything with them, they'd have to subscribe. Headhunter and getting strokens is another reason for f2p to subscribe (to tie up lose ends), just as quests you can't finish without subscribing do.

It's not the strokens that make me go ...um ok..it is the fact that they can get really nice xp that used to be one of the drawbacks of being f2p...the inability to really level past say 30 or 40 without having to subscribe.


As far as the ..person...above ranting and raving about f2p only having 5% etc and so forth, the point is that P2P have been waiting years for new content, and freeloaders got new content but p2p did not. Still will not even be thought about until after 2.0 is released..yay for new graphics that are questionable but no content. We pay for the game, if anyone is getting new content it should be subscribers, not perpetual freebies.

Ok guys here are some new rules, anymore flaming will be an instant reporting to the mods. NO MORE WARNINGS THEN.

I made this thread to see what people think, we are not flaming and talking trash especially behind a computer/laptop.



-xdark-osamodax

well back on topic. It's not the fact that they got PvP without paying but rather the fact they have it at all. F2P aligned are often obnoxious (being new to PvP and all) and have no idea what they are doing or how to aggro properly. In addition, most of them just serve as fodder for the P2P stroken accounts because P2P have access to money, gear, and of course pets and Dragoturkeys from which F2P would find limited or in the case of turkeys and pets, restricted from.

I just don't think that the "demand" for F2P pvp warrented them to actually grant it.

You don't deserve the money you get to pay for dofus with an attitude like that.

Wow, how extremely interesting..

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-xdark-osamodax

Many f2ps can't get over the fact that some p2ps are obnoxious about being p2p and are stuck on that point. Yes, some p2ps are obnoxious about f2ps, and yes some p2ps are attacking f2ps for not paying. That does not mean that every single person that decides to subscribe will adopt this attitude. There has been attempts to change the topic back to "Do you think it's fair that f2p get new content while those who've subscribed have gotten no new content, just revamped old content", but it seems to me like any person who supports f2p getting new content can't read past "Do you think it's fair that f2p get new content" and continue to rage at a stereotypical obnoxious p2p bigot while ignoring the point at hand. Personally I don't think the f2p players should get the new content before the p2p players get some, because they do not pay, and if they are unable to pay but wish to, that's bad luck and we all have to live in the circumstances that hold our life. That doesn't mean you should get content before those who pay for it just because the circumstance doesn't allow you to pay. And for those who think that the p2p should be happy with the content that they have and let the f2p players get something for free, would you work for the person that's paying you first or the person that wants the job done free?

I wouldn't mind them getting extra but if they were to do so I'd say the subscriber should gain something first then the non-subscriber to at the point where they still have 5% of the whole thing.



-xdark-osamodax

Lets put it this way. Im waiting in the VIP (P2P) room. Im waiting for food or whatever service i need. The 4th class (f2p) are also waiting for the same thing. The fact that we've both been waiting for the same time is evident. When the time comes, who gets served first? 4th class...

Why can't the p2p just accept that dofus has changed allignment to F2P now, i bet the same thing happend when dofus first came out when everything was F2P then about 5 months in they changed to p2p.

Sook Much? and lol to the people who pay money to pvp.

Before you f2pers try to flame me for just asking opinion answer me this.

Do you really deserve more contents? If so why?



-xdark-osamodax

This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 4 Nov 2009, 04:51

Im alright with them getting new content, or whatever, but p2p, is the biggest, and most stupidest they could give! Take it away soon, amakama, if you really want to show more to f2ps, why not just add a new mob or sumthing? Amakama does need to improve even f2p once in awhile, just to keep them hanging. Not too much, just a little. Enough to keep them playing. PvP the main source of scriptions, dont give them THAT!

This post has been edited by simomate: 4 Nov 2009, 09:02

It's still fun.