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Language rules fail on the international servers
 Marleen
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post 3 Nov 2009, 12:19 | #1
Language rules fail on the international servers Hello everyone,

honestly.. the language rules for the international servers failed bigtime... sad.gif

- you still get very rude commends like "fuk yo anglais!" if you ask people to please talk english when sending you pm's on crafting runes...
- the recrute chat is especially in cania 90% french even right after the rules announcement.. for example a few minutes recrute chat on rushu in the cania plains:



since the offical post about the language rules and french speaking players on rushu was closed with the "speak to the dofus team" forum, i have the feeling that the french speaking increased again especially on weekends... it seems no one is enforcing the "sanctions" for not speaking english.
sooo.. what now? does that mean that players from other language countrys that normaly speak english on the international servers can be so ignorant too and start talking german, polish, russian, chinese and italian too ? ( my motherlanguage is not english btw )



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 rossiscooler
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post 3 Nov 2009, 12:39 | #2
cherche groupe pour kani svp lvl 28!
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 Blazeron
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post 3 Nov 2009, 17:49 | #3
Sad, but true. When that announcement appeared, there was a "french revolution", and nothing was done at all ever since. It's just as bad as it has always been.
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 Alyss-Sin
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post 3 Nov 2009, 17:56 | #4
Yeah it's bad on Rosal with the polish and turkish players.
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 LeScoundrel
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post 3 Nov 2009, 20:13 | #5
I don't mind it, it just means that business is harder
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 FesteringPit
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post 3 Nov 2009, 23:19 | #6
QUOTE (LeScoundrel @ 3 Nov 2009, 21:13) *
I don't mind it, it just means that business is harder

I do mind, when 8 of 10 people pm me in french and when I reply to them "Talk english on Rush" i get a "Fuck anglais" as answer. It is annoying when almost every chat is flooded 90% in french! And it is impertinent from these Frenchies when they think rules don't apply to them, because they are french.

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 GoldfishGod
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post 3 Nov 2009, 23:50 | #7
Personally, I don't mind how lax the enforcement is of "English only". I wouldn't mind if they gave some of the bigger languages their own chat-channel (which you could mute obviously).

I think I have a bigger issue with the fact that the French have a tonne of server dedicated to them, much better support for those servers, and whatever else Ankama choose to laden on them, but the relatively measly servers given over to the International community (or even specific region/languages) still find themselves treated by the French players as even more servers "for them". They want, and get their cake... and eat everyone else's too.
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 Improv
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post 4 Nov 2009, 17:10 | #8
QUOTE (Marleen @ 3 Nov 2009, 12:19) *
honestly.. the language rules for the international servers failed bigtime... sad.gif


I'm glad about it. I really don't like those rules.
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 Blazeron
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post 4 Nov 2009, 20:09 | #9
QUOTE (Improv @ 4 Nov 2009, 17:10) *
I'm glad about it. I really don't like those rules.


It would be more confident for me too if i could just spam alemannic or german text all over the place, you know. But the difference between you and me (or most other people for that matter) is that i'm respecting the community and its people and threat them the way i'm expecting to get threaten myself.
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 Marleen
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post 4 Nov 2009, 23:04 | #10
QUOTE (Blazeron @ 4 Nov 2009, 21:09) *
It would be more confident for me too if i could just spam alemannic or german text all over the place, you know. But the difference between you and me (or most other people for that matter) is that i'm respecting the community and its people and threat them the way i'm expecting to get threaten myself.


totally agreed! honestly! i would never ever be so daft and expect that everyone understands pms in my motherlanguage on the international servers and even more, insult the others if they reply politely.. "sorry i dont speak your language.. please speak english.."

its a social and comunity respecting behaviour, to speak english on the international servers.. doing otherwise is asocial, disrespectful and plain egoistic.. and its very sad that more and more players behave like that sad.gif

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 Mentor-XXVI
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post 5 Nov 2009, 09:56 | #11
It is quite possible that there were no Moderators online at the time that this took place.

- XXVI
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 killerfurby
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post 5 Nov 2009, 13:42 | #12
they should invent an auto translator ^^ so when french people type stuff it just gets translated to english automatically. that would shut em up lol.

shame it cant happen sad.gif
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 GoldfishGod
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post 5 Nov 2009, 14:21 | #13
QUOTE (killerfurby @ 5 Nov 2009, 14:42) *
they should invent an auto translator ^^ so when french people type stuff it just gets translated to english automatically. that would shut em up lol.
Or an expanded emote/chat-template system, which has generic phrases like "looking for party", or "selling ..." etc.

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 bfbcf
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post 5 Nov 2009, 19:43 | #14
QUOTE (Mentor-XXVI @ 5 Nov 2009, 09:56) *
It is quite possible that there were no Moderators online at the time that this took place.

- XXVI

There seems to never be any moderators online on Rosal, you can shout what ever you want on e.g. /r and /b.
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 Ramassee
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post 5 Nov 2009, 22:23 | #15
I never understood why on an International server they expect everyone to speak english. I mean it is the international server, not the english or american server. I have no issue being spoken to in another language or trying to do basic communication through a common language or even using a translator(whether it be google translator or a friend next to me that understands the language).

Though I'm pretty sure if someone replied to me in such a rude manner, I'd write their /whois name down, take a screenshot, send it in for abuse. And make sure to never help that person in anyway again. And if I manage to see their guild tags, id probably raid their percs upon sight.
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 GoldfishGod
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post 5 Nov 2009, 22:43 | #16
QUOTE (Ramassee @ 5 Nov 2009, 22:23) *
I never understood why on an International server they expect everyone to speak english. I mean it is the international server, not the english or american server.

It's actually related to Moderation. The same reason why the International's forum is "English only". Unless the moderators know every language on the planet it become near impossible for them to "moderate" things because they won't understand what's being said in some cases.

In PM between two people who use that language, it's fine... in shared public channels it just becomes messy.
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 Improv
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post 6 Nov 2009, 20:25 | #17
QUOTE (Blazeron @ 4 Nov 2009, 21:09) *
It would be more confident for me too if i could just spam alemannic or german text all over the place, you know. But the difference between you and me (or most other people for that matter) is that i'm respecting the community and its people and threat them the way i'm expecting to get threaten myself.


It's not spamming, it's communication. I am all for politeness, but am also all for allowing multiple languages. One of the things I really like about Dofus is that I meet players from all over the world - it's been a great chance for me to practice my German, French, and Spanish skills. I don't want that to change, so I encourage people to ignore the (relatively new) language rules, because I think they're bad for the community.
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 DWKmaster
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post 7 Nov 2009, 01:04 | #18
To put in my two cents, if you want to speak French, play a French server. English is the most spoken language in the world besides Mandarin Chinese, and most native Mandarin speakers don't play Dofus. That is why you must speak English on international forums and servers. There are more French servers than all other languages combined! Use them to speak French, why don't you? And to Improv, a non-controversial way to practice French, German, and Spanish is to go on those servers.

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 InuzukaKiba
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post 7 Nov 2009, 01:30 | #19
It's very annoying that there's blatant disregard for the rule going on, and none of the rule breakers care. I'm not sure if it's humanly possible to enforce it enough to get all the foreign language out of public chat, sadly.
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 zetzima
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post 7 Nov 2009, 21:27 | #20
all the french guys came to rushu because the heard there wasa americans and then the americans quitted in rushu cuz too much french people and came to solar and so the rushu came overpopulated by french people.
it pisses me so hard every time i get invited to a kani hunt group they kick me cuz i dont speak french.....
my anger cannot be put to words atm.... angry.gif

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