Its not relevant but its still harrassement of the guild and its members and thus against the rules.

The guild have chosen to place a perceptor and must live up to the standards of the attacker if they wish to maintain an adequate defense. Whether or not this is possible for the defending guild is still irrelevant. It is not harrassment, nor is it against the rules; it is therefore still irrelevant, irrespective of the attacker's nationality.

-MaryMoo

This post has been edited by Marymoo: 13 Nov 2009, 05:44

You know, if i got a word wrong, then why don't you just tell me so instead of blabbering something about the english language?



Actually, you proved that i'm right with this one. I said that it might SEEM xenophobic, and since you said that the statement was xenophobic, it must have seemed xenophobic to you, making my statement correct.



Haha, no. We're not talking about statistics. We're talking about this statement:



He never said that it happened. He only said that it would be annoying if it would happened. He could also say "It's annoying when 100% of the chat is flloded with alemannic" and it would still not be hyperbolic or wrong.

Make sure to know what exactly a statement is telling you before citing it.

It seems you in fact do know the definition of 'xenophobic', and that you intended in saying that disliking the French is not racist. "Since when is it xenophobic if you dislike Frenchies?"

I still recommend picking up a dictionary. Xenophobic isn't the only word you got "wrong".


Actually, I can see that you're attempting to make me look like the idiot, when it was you who could not pick a story and stick to it. Again, I will ask you to stick to one story, as it's either not "xenophobic to dislike Frenchies", or "it might seem xenophobic..."

Nice try, though.


It is hyperbolic, because it is exaggerated, as 100% of the chat is never flooded with Alemannic or French or... anything. Therefore, the person who made this statement could not know how annoying it is because it has never happened.

They are therefore pulling statistics out of their ass to try and cement their argument, which obviously has not worked. They are also being hyperbolic. They are exaggerating -- call it whatever you want.

Oh, and if no evidence is provided... it is wrong.


You too.

-MaryMoo

EVERYBODY SHUT UP ABOUT XENOPHOBIA/XENOHATRED!!!! I have a half-French best friend, and yet I also dislike French on international chat. It's not xenohating (Just coining a term) to say F*ck you Anglais, but apparently it is to say the equivalent of F*ck you French. And that's just plain hypocritical. On another note, I don't dislike the French, I dislike certain French people who ignore the rules and speak French French French like they're above the law.

This post has been edited by DWKmaster: 14 Nov 2009, 00:33

No one is claiming that disliking how French players use the public speech channels is xenophobic.

-MaryMoo

I'm a blowhard. I like being extreme.

Actually, it's very likely that i got more words wrong, since English isn't my first language. It's not even my second language. British English is the fourth language you learn here, and that's just British English, not this one.




I'm not trying to make anyone look liek an idiot. I'm trying to have a discussion here. But since you just didn't counter the argument at hand, it's kind of difficult to have an argument. Anyway, i don't really care wether you think that you're an idiot, but i don't think you are one.




That still doesn't change anything about the fact that he didn't say that 90% of the chat was flooded with french. As for the evidence, i'm pretty sure that pretty much everyone would agree that it's annoying if 100% of the chat was flooded with french - and that's what the statement was about: wether it would be annoying if it happened.

Kudos for that one!

Anyone care to guess how long it would take for sanctions to be applied if someone went on a French server and started spamming channels in English and swearing at the French speaking population in English the way the French speakers swear at English speakers. My guess is about 1 minute.So why can't the rules be enforced here?The rules are there for a reason they need to be enforced.whether people like it or not English is the international language of commerce, and I have no problem working with players that attempt English or speak even broken English to communicate.In fact a lot of my guild members speak English as a second language and one nice guy is Korean playing on a Spanish version of windows and he still manages to communicate in English because he tries. The fact that a number of players feel they have the right to flood channels in a language other than English or PM someone and then swear at them if they don't their language that is a problem.Whether chat is flooded 20% or 80% with a language other than English it is still against the rules.

I agree 100% with LordGrey

This thread is full of misinformation, flaming, and it's not going anywhere. I'm closing it, but first, some clarifications:

1) English is the official language on all the international servers. You must speak English in public chats.

2) If you cannot speak English at all, you must move to a server which uses your language. French players are blocked from creating new accounts on the international servers by IP address, so this problem should diminish with time.

2) Moderators do warn and mute people for speaking other languages when we see them. Unfortunately, we have to work, sleep, eat etc. and can't be on Dofus 24 hours a day.