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Vit osa ap, how many?
 gallloluka
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post 4 Nov 2009, 19:18 | #1
Vit osa ap hey, i'm currently working on a vit osa, and i would like to know what is the best choice if price is not a big factor:
10 ap and much more vit (and initiative),
11 ap and average vit,
12 ap and a little less vit

Please keep in mind that I will be PvP'ing a lot... And which items should I use to get the ap I need.

The level range i am thinking about is about 80 - 130 please make the awnser as detailed as possible

bye and thanks in advance,
galo

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 touchof
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post 4 Nov 2009, 21:21 | #2
Forget being int; if you want good ap and summons, your stats are all gonna be in the negative. My (now 71) osa has 1000 vit (exactly-not scrolled) 11 ap a,d +10 summons without animal blessing. Works like a charm. More ap the better really.
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 gallloluka
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post 4 Nov 2009, 21:24 | #3
QUOTE (touchof @ 4 Nov 2009, 22:21) *
Forget being int; if you want good ap and summons, your stats are all gonna be in the negative. My (now 71) osa has 1000 vit (exactly-not scrolled) 11 ap a,d +10 summons without animal blessing. Works like a charm. More ap the better really.


lol, yeah... i misstyped that tongue.gif i meant writing that i'm working on a vit osa, thanks for pointing that out

by the way, i'll change it in my original question

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 SaddiXxX
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post 5 Nov 2009, 15:26 | #4
go for the first choice you need good init and hp to stay alive 10 ap if enough. if you will manage get range boosters that be awesome so you can buff from far far away without put yourself in range.
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 Higure
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post 5 Nov 2009, 20:06 | #5
Another PvP seeking, this is making me sick...
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 Fromlowlevelt...
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post 6 Nov 2009, 14:53 | #6
QUOTE (touchof @ 4 Nov 2009, 21:21) *
Forget being int; if you want good ap and summons, your stats are all gonna be in the negative. My (now 71) osa has 1000 vit (exactly-not scrolled) 11 ap a,d +10 summons without animal blessing. Works like a charm. More ap the better really.


woho smitty yh i saw your osa its ownage ^^ when u gonna leech me to level 200
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 FlamingKittyK...
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post 7 Nov 2009, 14:02 | #7
I would suggest getting 12ap/6mp and only getting vitality from your base stats and a emerald/ginger mount. It is more important to have 12ap incase you fight someone that dishes out alot of damage, so you can get out a few summons the first turn. 6mp is really good so you can manuver farther away from whomever your fighting. Only problems you might have is with a higher level agi xelor that uses teleport and rhol bak alot.
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 gallloluka
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post 7 Nov 2009, 20:12 | #8
QUOTE (Higure @ 5 Nov 2009, 21:06) *
Another PvP seeking, this is making me sick...


you are right about that I like PvP, it's one of the two reasons that I still play Dofus (the other reson being the community). However, I dont play PvP to win, I play it for fun. I've been defeated many more times that I have won. I even made some friends while i was PvP'ing laugh.gif
Also note that I say: "if price is not a big factor" even though in reality it is a big factor for me, because i'm not very rich ohmy.gif
I'm asking this question because I am interested in what the best tactic for an osa would be (and IF I EVER get rich... this information will come in handy wink.gif ).

QUOTE (FlamingKittyKnight @ 7 Nov 2009, 15:02) *
I would suggest getting 12ap/6mp and only getting vitality from your base stats and a emerald/ginger mount. It is more important to have 12ap incase you fight someone that dishes out alot of damage, so you can get out a few summons the first turn. 6mp is really good so you can manuver farther away from whomever your fighting. Only problems you might have is with a higher level agi xelor that uses teleport and rhol bak alot.


hmmm... but if you would go for a 12ap/6mp set wouldn't you then die very quickly if the opponent has good agility or a good tactic for dodging your summons (which is more unlikely then the agility case)?
And about the agi Xelor... I think Gobbal will play a big role in that fight (because of gravity state), and if you play smart enough I think the osa can win.
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post 8 Nov 2009, 23:11 | #9
QUOTE (Fromlowleveltomaster @ 6 Nov 2009, 14:53) *
woho smitty yh i saw your osa its ownage ^^ when u gonna leech me to level 200


When my set is done, silly tongue.gif

Heya ivy xD

loving the nickname btw ^^
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 touchof
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post 8 Nov 2009, 23:12 | #10
Also, if you're fighting an agi xelor, get 12 tofus on the field, and have an air shield. Then laugh as they fail to either dodge/kill anything wink.gif
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 gallloluka
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post 9 Nov 2009, 19:40 | #11
QUOTE (touchof @ 9 Nov 2009, 00:12) *
Also, if you're fighting an agi xelor, get 12 tofus on the field, and have an air shield. Then laugh as they fail to either dodge/kill anything wink.gif


Sounds like a very fun and effective tactic tongue.gif
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 Mentor-III
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post 9 Nov 2009, 19:54 | #12
My vit osa has 12 ap, its fantastically useful. 12 ap means you can get out two summons a turn, and toss in a buff on occasion. 12 ap also means you can spam three tofu a turn, four a turn if you are wearing the class hat. Ive got +15 summons in my set, and there is pretty much nothing that can be done against a tofu spam tactic, especially four a turn.

Without some aoe spells and luck with tofu run patterns, there is no way your foe can kill all of them, and even if he does, you just spend 12 ap to do 200 damage and he spent all his ap to do none. If he doesnt kill them, before long, there are a dozen of them out doing 600 damage a turn.

My osa has two sets, as well, a pvp summon spam set and a pvm high int set, for damage or massive heals with hammer ican. Impossible to beat in pvp, tremendously useful in pvm - he heals higher than a lot of enis i know with that hammer.

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 Higure
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post 10 Nov 2009, 02:43 | #13
Go for a Int osa then, you will regret being Vit osa once you get animal healing... So annoying to your oponents tongue.gif
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 gallloluka
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post 10 Nov 2009, 20:44 | #14
QUOTE (Higure @ 10 Nov 2009, 03:43) *
Go for a Int osa then, you will regret being Vit osa once you get animal healing... So annoying to your oponents tongue.gif


I am int now, and i already have animal healing, but for some reason the opponents hate it even more when they finaly kill my gobbal and then i summon a new one tongue.gif (also, the higher lvl you become, the easier it is for the opponent to kill the gobbal in one turn)
I am earning money now to buy a good set before I reset all my stats to vit, to turn into a vit osa. (I like the playstile a lot, and it is quite effective)
On high level (if i ever come there unsure.gif ) I'll change back to an int osa.
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 Mentor-III
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post 10 Nov 2009, 23:31 | #15
QUOTE (gallloluka @ 10 Nov 2009, 13:44) *
I am int now, and i already have animal healing, but for some reason the opponents hate it even more when they finaly kill my gobbal and then i summon a new one tongue.gif (also, the higher lvl you become, the easier it is for the opponent to kill the gobbal in one turn)
I am earning money now to buy a good set before I reset all my stats to vit, to turn into a vit osa. (I like the playstile a lot, and it is quite effective)
On high level (if i ever come there unsure.gif ) I'll change back to an int osa.

I wouldnt reccomend resetting to vit at higher (120+) levels, there really isnt much point to the extra 600 vit you would get from putting your points in it. Heck, against a lot of classes, I dont even get hit once. My PVP set gives ap, vit, summons, and nothing else. This gives me the advantage of being actually useful in pvm, and just as deadly in pvp.


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post 15 Nov 2009, 10:48 | #16
mentor, what are you items in your sets? and what lvl is your osa?? biggrin.gif
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 gallloluka
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post 18 Nov 2009, 19:02 | #17
QUOTE (StevenTheHandsome @ 15 Nov 2009, 11:48) *
mentor, what are you items in your sets? and what lvl is your osa?? biggrin.gif


Yeah... i would also like to know...
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 Mentor-III
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post 19 Nov 2009, 02:36 | #18
My extremely cheap (and man, do i mean CHEAP) pvp set at 101 was this

http://dsc.dofusworks.com/11/reports/4b049de16a5c4.html

I rode an emerald/almond, but that breed of DT wasnt in the DSC database, and DSC hasnt been updated to take into account the five vit per level change. So, add a summon and 705 vit to it.

At 120 or so (its equippable, however, at 113), i changed to this

http://dsc.dofusworks.com/11/reports/4b049efae53b0.html

Advantage of this set is about 500 more vit, and the ability to change the hat as i saw the need. On close maps, i would use Billalo for the initiative so i wouldnt get locked by certain classes, against others i used the class hat for four tofu a turn. Less summons, but getting more than ten is pretty rare, even when youre spamming tofu. Again, used emerald almond, so add a summon and 765 vit to it,.

I wore this set for quite a while, its pretty amazing. At 140 I reset to int so i could be useful in pvm. Wore full SO, with wand of limbo, ap/mp gelano, emerald almond DT. This set didnt have many summons at all, but I had enough spell points lying to max animal blessing to more than make up for it. Being able to heal summons and attack myself was also pretty nice, could trade the limbo for a real weapon when neccesary. There are much nicer +vit sets, but this set was enough for me to win like 95% of the time so i never bothered.

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 Capwi
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post 19 Nov 2009, 07:10 | #19
Don't you mean 700? It's 5 per level up, so at L101, you'd have 100*5 additional HP from levels rather than 101*5.
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 Mentor-III
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post 19 Nov 2009, 08:04 | #20
Youre right, its 700. I am very good at making small mistakes and oversights, I like to exercise this skill in just about every post.

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 DoonKan
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post 20 Nov 2009, 20:35 | #21
I think the 10ap is great since most likely ur stats will b crap
but if u can get more ap and same or better stats go for it but 10ap seems like u would have better init or vit than 12ap
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