Agility/Chance Sacrier I find it extreemly hard for me a sacrier who kills mobs x5 of my level yet I can't beat the weakest of cras that have lashing arrow. A level 72 agility cra (Im level 70) Just aggroed me earlier today and I did not hit the cra enough to win due to.

Class spell
Lashing arrow
Absorbtive arrow
The pure slackness of 6MP.

If there are any strategies I could use against a cra with characteristics like this and win I can possibly beat the strongest of iops too. Currenly my sacrier is in the dumps fighting in otomai grassy plains leveling up decently.

I play a sac and this is what i reccomend at your level.

8ap - This is obviously required for double disso or fury. I had 9-10 depending on set, but 8 gives you more space for mp.
6mp - Yes, you should have 6 mp vs cras. The easiest method is boots, weapon, cloak. Your discretion. Eurfolle Daggers, Salt n' Battery Cloak, Aerdala Getas, are three good options to acheive that 6mp. In fact, an ap mp gelano and an emerald mount would bump you up to 8.
Cawwot - Great LoS blocker if you come at a cra relatively linear. Many cras think it blocks your LoS too, and forget you can swap attract.
Map - A good map where you start cc should do. Like the one under The Village Zaap.
Positioning - Most cras try to attempt to retreat arrow to knock you back. If you position yourself diagonal rather than linear(using the same amount of mp) they will have to waste mp to retreat you.
Leek Pie - if a cra doesnt range rape you, stock up fury every turn (which you should be doing whenever you have the spare ap) and leek if you are in range.
Vitality - Most cras at that level have 500-1000 hp. If you have approx 1500, which i'm sure is doable at level 7X, that is 500 damage with punishment.
Flying Sword -NEVER, I repeat, NEVER, sacrifice your sword, if there is a large distance between you and your sword. The cra will just hit the sword twice, leaving you in your original position.

I can't think of any specifics at the moment, other than general sacrier tactics that you should know anyways.

Best of luck.

Edit: I realised you don't have flying sword yet. Same thing applies for any other ally you would sacrifice.

This post has been edited by Lunuil: 29 Oct 2009, 02:46

Rock paper scissors, you cant win everything.

One really good tactic that I found is this ( but it only works in special maps ) Go to a squere where you can leave only from one side and behind this squere there must be a block(better just summon a cawwo behind you).So go to the onlyonesideleaving square and summon
a Chaferfu.Let him attack you.Then in the next turn cast Cooperation to the cra (let him in the onlyonesideleaving square)and transpotition your chaferfu.The cra will get in the square-trap and you will be infront of him.(here goes why you should have a block behind you when you transpotition the chaferfu,the cra might push you back.

I will try to give you a photo.

Thanks. I find that method that you have quite nice. I have a good set. But it is waiting for me at level 80 (9-14 air damage 29 agi 10 wis -1AP to target +15 on crits 1/20 crit hit 1/50 crit fail and it also gives MP!!!) I might try a 6 MP set from ebony emerald turkey those daggers and boots. 9AP with Dazzl cloak or belt gelano and my aerdala amulet. Do you think this set will do any good?

9AP 6MP and about +150 or so agility. 1/2 crits on those daggers will serve me good since I am a dagger sacrier.

Where do you get the spell cawwot again? I quit for a year and didn't have it ever x.x

I am also level 73 right now. I can use those daggers soon

Edit : My daggers reduce my AP not theirs D:

This post has been edited by Burning-light: 2 Nov 2009, 23:46

1. Cawwot can be obtained in exchange for 100 Cawwots. Check wikia for specifics.

2. About those daggers, I think you made a critical error in judgment. I can't imagine daggers that have 1mp, 1/20 base crit, 9-14 air damage ánd AP rape. I'm afraid that the "Ap lost for the target: 1" means you will lose 1ap when equipping it. Better get yourself some air-maged Chakra Styles if you desperately want 9ap.

Edit: Ortimus Contrari's Bloody Blades are in fact daggers that lower your AP by one. Sorry.

This post has been edited by MisterJeffy: 29 Oct 2009, 23:51

Thanks, Yeah you got the daggers im talking about If it were to make me lose 1AP from equipping. Mush cuteers would suck :x

~Sir-Sac

Edit:I found out that its just random weapons reduce opponents AP and reduce your AP

This post has been edited by Burning-light: 3 Nov 2009, 23:21

You can't lock a cra, really. When they disperse, their own character is affected, so if thy disperse right infront of themselves, they will move away from the targetted square. Otherwise they can just cast retreat.

Nope, some weapons which clain they give ap loss take from the person equipping, while others take from the target-the wiki has a list. Cuteers take from the target, but to have the stats he mentioned at level 80, they MUST mean -ap for the wielder-anything else would be ridiculous

This post has been edited by touchof: 30 Oct 2009, 13:12

you didn't understand ehat I said and its my fault I will make you a mini map with the moves.I made it in paint I cant use the PrtScn button.

These are the potitions after you summon the chaferfu then you cast cooperation to the cra : and then you cast transpotition to the chaferfu Sorry for the big size.I made it to the paint

This post has been edited by XehanordHeartless: 30 Oct 2009, 14:19

That's a pretty nifty lock, indeed. However, good luck finding a map with block in those places..

If you have the cawwot spell you can easy make these blocks.



*edited for text mistakes.

This post has been edited by XehanordHeartless: 30 Oct 2009, 21:33

Pretty sure 1 turn of AoE attacks will kill those cawwots. Cawwots have a cooldown too, not a viable strategy at all imo.

Yes it is viable I do this all time and I dont have any problems with cras.You dont need 2 cawwots just go near one block and summon one cawwot.Its not so hard to find one map like this one.For example the map of eniripsa dopple or the map were you go when you enter the Sram temple.You cant fight in the first map but there are a lot of maps like these.You just need to use your mind.Also dont forget the chaferfu.He will come to you in a couple of turns.He will be a good block then.

This post has been edited by XehanordHeartless: 31 Oct 2009, 13:26

Getting back to the OP, I'm a 155 agi/chance sac and I just soloed to the last room of peki to catch my group

just read 'PvP as opposed to 'PvM'. But yeh, in group PvP you're better. Dissolution, while dealing less damage than most weapons, does allow you to clusterf**k multiple opponents really nicely, whilst locking them and keeping yourself alive. Same as in PvM really tbh xD

This post has been edited by touchof: 1 Nov 2009, 00:24

You can try getting learning any summon and try to hide behind it for it provides block after the cras turn if your creature is still alive you can try using transposition or cooperation and hopefully the summon goes up against your enemy. I hope that helped.



-xdark-osamodax

Yeah... I just got level 80 (81) and the daggers reduce my AP, still useful for easy MP/Damage item

Thats why you ask them if they don't have dispersing arrow, Then you agress them

~Sarcasm xD

Sure, it's viable at very low levels. But even around mid-level pvp, it won't work.