I don't think it would be a good idea for them to create a kama store. Like many said before me it would screw up the economy. It's best to leave it this way but I think the bots should go though. If you want to buy kamas just google it.

I started a petition about this.

It's somewhat troll-ridden but still valid and more likely to be noticed by Ankama.

I don't know if it had any influence on the delay of 2.0 but if you have friends who would quit if PvP becomes pointless without paying a fortune, or you want to maybe be able to buy a turq or other rare item (with earned kamas) one day, you might want to sign it.

Our chars are inextricably linked to the server. If the server is ruined, our chars are too. Let Ankama know how disgusting it is for them to plan this and not even tell us.

This post right here pretty much sums up the state dofus is currently in. If you're quitting for fear that your PvP experience is going to be ruined then DOFUS most definitely isn't the game for you. You'd be much better suited in something that openly states that it's a PvP game. If you're worried about dropping money because you need to get your stroken fix, then DOFUS most definitely isn't the game for you.

Alyss, I don't know if you're trolling again or are just plain weird. What makes you think you know Dofus isn't the game for someone? What a freaky thing to say.

Dofus has always had PvP, was always intended to and everyone I know enjoys it, even if just perc defences.

This post has been edited by ChoKuRei: 6 Dec 2009, 06:28

The only thing 95% of you PvP players are worried about is strokens. The headhunter system has systematically ruined this game more every update. It's brought about insanely higher prices on most gear and bread has almost tripled in price. Energy potions, again tripled in price. Players attitudes towards one another in PvP have changed so dramatically that it's nothing but insults back and forth and spam in the channels about who's ganging who. A good 40% of Rosal does nothing but stand at 5,-23 aggressing anyone and everyone that comes by in an attempt to gather strokens or to Wave their E-Penis around and brag about how big their wings are. Every consecutive update leading up to and after the implementation of the Head Hunter quest has nerfed some class into oblivion. Players constantly grind up builds that are so ridiculously OP in low level combat it's not even fair to call it a fight. So if you can name a single thing that's good about the head hunter quest, or strokens I'll admit that I'm wrong in assuming that DOFUS isn't a game for PvP addicts.


I'm glad you edited your post to add the word Trolling in it. That seems to be where people go when they're at a loss for an intelligence well thought out response to someone criticizing them. Making an educated response to the ignorance of someone else automatically labels you a troll.

This post has been edited by Alyss-Sin: 6 Dec 2009, 06:35

You know me a bit and you know I do not enjoy PvP in any form.

Nonetheless, I think that Alyss-Sin goes too far in his anti-PvP crusade.

Nah. I'd imagine about 25% of 1v1 players are mainly concerned with strokens. But PvM gets very dull and 1v1 is a good alternative.
Moreso, most people enjoy GvG more.


I'll agree with you that excessive rewards on low-level headhunters have significantly harmed the economy. I have been campaigning for that to be fixed ever since that came out.


You're exaggerating a fair bit here.


First of all, your logic seems to be reversed. Strokens implies Dofus is good for PvP addicts.

Secondly there are plenty of good things about headhunter. It's properly challenging in a way that PvM never could be. It's exciting. And it's different enough from PvM as to make Dofus worth playing into epic levels.


I think it's more when people repeatedly post things that seem purely designed to wind others up, as evidenced by the personal attacks, abrupt shift away from the topic and lack of logic.

Nikto - yeah I know you a bit. Didn't feel I could speak for you though. Nowt wrong with not liking PvP but Alyss was implying there's something wrong with the vast majority who do.

I exaggerate none. You do not play Rosal I often stand at 5,-23 and watch the mass chaos going on. There are so many players there that the map begins to lag like the Astrub Zaap.


The fact that it is "challenging" for some does not make it a good thing it simply means some find it challenging. My wife and I are quickly reaching epic level and neither of us see the need to PvP to keep interest. Perhaps Dofus isn't the game for you, as I said.


I never post strictly to wind someone up. I rarely use personal attacks, and the only time I'll do so is when a personal attack is presented to me. While I often post off topic I feel I have the freedom to do so. As for logic, lack thereof is personal. If I were to say your posts all lack logic then they would in fact all lack logic because I believe so.

I remember the days i defended the world of ankama against bots every day id log in with my cra, and bwush bow and rob the little blighters.
until ankama decided to protect the botters by giving them a over powerfull guard.

Fail topic.No cash shop, No economy, no liberty!

If this bothers you so much, why would you stand there? o.O


Actually it does. People play games such as this for the satisfaction. Why else would people grind for a year to get to 200? No challenge = no satisfaction.

Therefore challenging = good for players. Not all of them but certainly most appreciate being challenged.


If you're not epic level, then you don't really know. I've been epic level (150+) for over a year. There's very little to do apart from run X dungeon for the 12th time or grind out XP/mats/professions.


You assume that just because you have the right to do so, it's OK for you to do so. That's not just incredibly selfish and offensive, it's deeply anti-social and kinda confirms my image of you trolling cos no-one will pay you attention otherwise.

Oh well I consider epic level 195+, I'm 154 and my wife is 171. I actually get quite a lot of attention. I login and am almost immediately messaged or invited to a group. You make fairly large assumptions which thus far have been quite false.

This post has been edited by Alyss-Sin: 8 Dec 2009, 01:12

Strokens allow you to purchase souls, so you're guild and friends can participate in happy, friendly, fights in an arena, where just as many people gather to do souls as they gather to pvp at 5,-23.

Headhunter is something you can do when your friends are offline; nobody wants to be lonely.

You can't say that friendship isn't good.

Note the serious but sarcastic sarcasm.

I'm waiting for you to admit that you are wrong.

(8) Jeopardy Theme

I also play on Rosal and even I was absent for a week I still can say that you are exaggerating.

And I'm sorry to say it, but it's quite annoying to see you coming to unrelated to PvP topics and starting to curse PvP and PvP'ers. It's very disappointing.
Headhunter quest doesn't have the same impact on the economy as it had in the very beginning. And while low level PvP is still abused you can ignore it and do PvM.

In any case, according to the ToS developers have the right to change the game in any way they like without consulting with the players. This means that if tomorrow you log into Dofus and find online chess instead of MMORPG you used to play developers still will be in their right to do so.
If you don't like the game you always can quit.

Nikto I'm dissapointed in you, accusing me of cursing players. I've never done that. I love DOFUS I just dislike PvP.

I already proposed this idea and got the same excuses from others you are getting. Ankama is foolish not to do this. There are already tons of people making loads of kamas ingame and this would certainly help level the playing field for all players.

my problem with bots has always been less about the economy, and more about the server load... I'm not really sure how many bots are on-line at any given time, but every one of them makes the lines to log in longer. Yes, as P2P, I get some priority, but in the end, each server accepts only a certain number of simultaneous players, and every bot is taking up one of those spots. If bots did not exist, Ankama could support the same number of real players with fewer servers... I doubt they'd lower the subscription costs to reflect the lowered cost of hosting us, but it might prevent an eventual increase in subscription costs that would become necessary by server resources taken up by bots!

There probably exists some natural percentage of the players that are bots, to support the economy of players who buy kamas... and because of this, it might be that bots will never overrun a server too badly... ex: a server could never have 90% of its players bots, because there'd be not enough real players to sell the kamas to but what % is it? is it as low as 5%? if it requires that few botters to support the real players, then maybe Ankama doesn't care about the resources they're consuming... I'm not sure.

in any event, I'd be happier if the log in lines on busy days were even 5% shorter

[edit] to be completely on-topic, though, I'm personally against Ankama selling kamas, for many of the reasons already expressed here.

This post has been edited by telkoth: 12 Dec 2009, 13:58