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Archmonster Soul Stones, In the market.
 Alyss-Sin
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post 6 Nov 2009, 03:49 | #1
Archmonster Soul Stones So I would like to start a discussion on possible solutions to buying/selling soulstones in the markets. Forgive me if this has been posted before I did a very basic quick search and didn't pull up anything but vaguely remember someone mentioning it.


Anyway Whenever I'm price checking a certain arch I have to manually go through and click every soul stone in the market looking for the one I'm trying to sell. I honestly have very little background in the actual development of video games. I took a few classes but never followed through. I would think using the search function would be the best way but wouldn't even know where to begin to make it work with soulstones. Any and all suggestions would be welcome and maybe now that we have a new community manager some of them may make it to the development table.
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 ArchangelWap
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post 6 Nov 2009, 03:56 | #2
So, you want it to be, *insert arch name here* Soul Stone?
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 Alyss-Sin
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post 6 Nov 2009, 04:41 | #3
Well I'd like to be able to use the search bar and type in [ the brave ] and have it bring up piwilliam the brave for instance. Just as I would for any other item in any other market only the search would be tied to the creature inside of the soul rather than the soulstone itself.
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 ArchangelWap
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post 6 Nov 2009, 06:17 | #4
Hmm... In connection to this change(if it will), would Dungeon Keeper Soul Stones be back?
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 CoolRay
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post 6 Nov 2009, 06:17 | #5
i actually have to agree with alyss sin because i always hate having to to get confused on how much a piwi arch is
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 Blazeron
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post 6 Nov 2009, 12:33 | #6
I think it's a good idea. There definitely needs to be a way of distinguishing soulstones in sellrooms. We got them split into three categories now which is good, but it's still a huge mess of soulstones and no way to search for what you want.
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 dommex
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post 6 Nov 2009, 13:15 | #7
I agree, the archmonster markets are screwed up.



@ArchangelWap. The *Insert arch name here* soulstone-idea would be even better if Ankama put *Instert normal monster name here* within () up.
For example: "Roy the rover soulstone (Mopy king)". So I (others aswell) don't have to check wiki everytime they look for an arch to buy and it gets easier to sell your own soul
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 Librarylover
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post 6 Nov 2009, 14:06 | #8
Lol. If 2 archs ever get souled together.
Impossible? rare definitly but impossible?
Anyway. if two archs are souled together. That is gonna stuff the name XD Say
"Abounteous the GenerousFollikoko the Tufted Archmonster SoulStone"
No really, that is what would happen. 2 archs ever been done before?
8 archs in one soul would be legendary. O_O
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 Alyss-Sin
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post 6 Nov 2009, 14:15 | #9
Yes 2 archs sometimes happen to be in 1 stone. Rarely but they do. I would suppose this idea would work for all monsters in soul stones even a generic Piwi. You would just type in the monster you're looking for and bam there would be any available soul containing that monster.
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 KoKomonkey
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post 6 Nov 2009, 20:26 | #10
a search engine for souls would be nice.
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 rossiscooler
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post 6 Nov 2009, 23:11 | #11
to do this, ankama would have to literally make it so every arch monster you soul, has its own item name

ie. souling piwilliam the brave would make the item actually called "piwilliam the brave soulstone"

the initial issues that come to mind from a players perspective is

1) what if theres more than 1 arch
2) makes the sellrooms a mess again having all the different item names

what would been to happen really is when you open the sellroom menu and select the drop down menu to choose "soul stones" there would need to be

monster soul stones
dungeon keeper soul stones
spiritual gems
arch monster soul stones
blank soul stones

once you open that, it lists the every monster name, so just like you would select a dora bora in tailor sellrooms and see all the different ones for sale, you would choose the "piwilliam the brave soulstone" and all the souls for sale with him in it, would be listed

so as you can imagine, it would take a lot of work to set up but very do-able with time

but, it still leaves souls of regular monsters all messed up, because of the multiple types of different monsters it would be too hard to get a name for them, possibly a sorting by location type, ie, forest mobs, jungle mobs, plains mobs, etc could be done

i hope that made sense

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 Alyss-Sin
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post 6 Nov 2009, 23:56 | #12
I was thinking more along the lines of the search function for that particular market being refined so that rather than pulling up a soulstone based on what it's called pulling up a soulstone based on the monster inside of it. Of course they'd need to do a bit of work for that but I don't see why it would be beyond capabilities. I suppose anything is better than it is at the moment.
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 meatraw
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post 7 Nov 2009, 18:23 | #13
QUOTE (Alyss-Sin @ 6 Nov 2009, 04:49) *
So I would like to start a discussion on possible solutions to buying/selling soulstones in the markets. Forgive me if this has been posted before I did a very basic quick search and didn't pull up anything but vaguely remember someone mentioning it.


Anyway Whenever I'm price checking a certain arch I have to manually go through and click every soul stone in the market looking for the one I'm trying to sell. I honestly have very little background in the actual development of video games. I took a few classes but never followed through. I would think using the search function would be the best way but wouldn't even know where to begin to make it work with soulstones. Any and all suggestions would be welcome and maybe now that we have a new community manager some of them may make it to the development table.


It would be a neat feature. I would still go thru all of them looking for bargains tho. After little practice mixed with addiction and especially if you do the quest second time, you kinda proceed to a real pro in soul market capable of going thru all arches in 3 mins including decision making and buying xD.

But yeah, especially if you are on the sellers side, it sure is irritating to go through all of them to find the one you just caught to get an idea of its price or whats currently the best offer you would like your price to be close to.

Although I would rather not see this implemented if its programmed badly, since soul market often lags the crap out of me until the whole list loads. But thats prolly issue of client and not server generated list.


Edit: and now ankama let me log in so i dont troll more topics in here

This post has been edited by meatraw: 7 Nov 2009, 18:24
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 Blazeron
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post 7 Nov 2009, 22:54 | #14
QUOTE (rossiscooler @ 6 Nov 2009, 23:11) *
to do this, ankama would have to literally make it so every arch monster you soul, has its own item name


How many different item names are there in Diablo II? 100'000? A million? Not including the billions of different rare items that share the same random name.

Anyway, it wouldn't be a problem to just make automatically generated names in the same fashion as it isn't a problem to make it so every item can have any stats it wants.
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 rossiscooler
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post 8 Nov 2009, 10:01 | #15
QUOTE (Blazeron @ 8 Nov 2009, 06:54) *
How many different item names are there in Diablo II? 100'000? A million? Not including the billions of different rare items that share the same random name.

Anyway, it wouldn't be a problem to just make automatically generated names in the same fashion as it isn't a problem to make it so every item can have any stats it wants.


i never said, it cant be done wink.gif

but this is ankama right

i would prefer allys way personally, my example was just how it would have to be done under the present coding
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 Oamoka
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post 8 Nov 2009, 10:30 | #16
It'd be better if they could change the "search" function, so that (for soul stones at least), you could search the "effects" tab for the specific arch you want. Even if they only did this at soul sell rooms.
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 Blazeron
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post 8 Nov 2009, 11:58 | #17
QUOTE (rossiscooler @ 8 Nov 2009, 10:01) *
i never said, it cant be done wink.gif

but this is ankama right

i would prefer allys way personally, my example was just how it would have to be done under the present coding


You're right. I don't think ankama could get it done either to be honest.
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 Alyss-Sin
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post 14 Nov 2009, 04:08 | #18
Speaking of Dual Arcs.

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 rossiscooler
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post 14 Nov 2009, 09:53 | #19
stop it now

ur just drunk tongue.gif
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 Alyss-Sin
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post 14 Nov 2009, 14:37 | #20
My dear boy. I am never that drunk.
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 DoonKan
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post 21 Nov 2009, 18:42 | #21
yah finding arches is such a hassle Im basically looking for an hr through endless prices of arch stones >.<
wish it was easier too hehe
and btw gratz on the dual arch alyss-sin

KAN ;p
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