The sad extinction of Fecas It is sad to see Feca class dying slowly in all Dofus servers. For information, the % of fecas is less than 4% in all servers, the average is 2%.
To be an int feca is to play with low damage, without a good weapon and with armors which do not reduce damage in a proportion fair with the amout of damage produced by the other classes.
To play feca, is to spend lots of money in parchments to raise ALL the elements (water, air, fire and earth) to see your shields still work badly. You have also to scroll your wisdom in order to your glifs to work. I say spend money because feca rarely win PVP... You have also to collect lots of diamonsd so you can raise 5 shields, 4 glifs (silence is useless), weapon skill and immunities...
You have also to see all other classes to get a good % reduction shield and set and reduce damage at the same amount as you.
What is feca position at PVM? After you give your shield to everyone, you are uselless for 5 turns until they remember you again. Our damage is not fair with the reduction we have... My 13-16 fire Krys Obul hits a little bit more than 100 with 580 int...
I play feca because I like the class. But it has no atraction to young players which will level up slowly and be always a ghost at PVP, even in higher levels...
I hope there will be some improvement. I do not ask for a super-hyper char, but one a little bit more balanced with the other classes...

The biggest problem with the class is that it's deceptively difficult (not to mention expensive) to play effectively; it's less that we're necessarily the weakest, more that we need to put in a lot more effort to keep up. It sucks, but it's nice when you finally break through that threshold and start holding your own in fights.

It's not fun at all at lower levels, I'll grant you, but it pays off eventually. If you can hold out that long.

Well spoken sir. I quit my feca when we were forced to start casting shields so often. I lost all interested when playing stopped being fun and became tedious. I do miss my feca I loved the character probably the prettiest in the game. I just wish Ankama would balance them out more because like you said it really isn't worth it.

We have a lv165 feca in our guild who's quite formidable. My own lv89 is, uh, less than formidable....

This is probably the most overnerfed class in Dofus.

My Feca is level 94 at the moment, and to be honest every time I get into a fight I feel left out. I can't Burn half the time because I don't want to hit my own team, everyone runs off before I can cast armors (which they don't need, because they can Counter/BP/Prevent/Vitality/Summon+Toad) and when I actually get close enough to hit something someone else will kill it because I have to rely on a staff to do damage.
You know what I really hate about it? Feca Staff. Ankama acknowledges WHAT we're complaining about, and indeed mocks it three times (Deni Hoobe, one map north of the Astrub Zaap, and the description on Ambusher Buds mention it as well) but they won't do anything to fix it. So maybe people have trouble beating us in PVP. Fine. Let them work out a strategy like anyone else would. The only times that I've felt overpowered were between level 11 and level 21, and right before I realised that Reinforced Protection cut off my main source of damage.

I remember when fecas were really OP...

I have a str/crit ffeca friend. now THAT'S a great build. Nice damage, ap theft, amazing earth shields... But I miss the old 'untouchable' int fecas too ._.

It's probably worth mentioning that those stats are severely distorted by bots - I think the reason there are so many Cras is that most of the bots are cras. They might outnumber serious characters.

Agreed. There are very few of us left. We've been nerfed into oblivion. And it makes me sad. If there was ever a class that is useless in dungeons, feca is it. With the exception of a few support tricks we can do in fungus dungeon, we aren't invited to do things with the rest of the Dofus world. When will Ankama hear our cries and come to our rescue?

I wonder how these forums would've looked back during the 1.23v.
What would we be talking about THEN on here?

The talk would have been much like:

A is overpowered.

B is underpowered.

C needs to be nerfed.

D needs to be buffed.

E needs to be restored.

F needs to be changed.

G needs to be removed.

Version 1.23 ruined the game. The game was much better with version H.

Version 1.23 saved the game, The game was much worse with version I.

Changes to class J rock/suck.

Changes to the system K rock/suck.

And on.. and on... and on...

Pretty much the same as it's always been really.

What do you mean, "would've"? Version 1.23 was released on April 15th, 2008 and the forums certainly existed back then. I found plenty of topics about 1.23 (and even about Fecas in particular) by just going back far enough. (About page 60 on the Character Class section, if your forum settings are set to the maximum number of topics per page, or page 20 on Remarks with similar settings. I'm not going to check every single forum to see exactly where the 1.23 topics are for all of them, but it's not exactly rocket surgery)

Well, it wasn't that nearly as bad as it is now. Because back then, it was still a PvM game, and classes being unbalanced in 1 vs. 1 wasn't an issue. You didn't constantly see people whining about wrath (even though instant-killed back then), you didn't see people complaining about wis xelors and sacs back then (even though they were about as unbalanced as they're now) and you never, ever saw anything about strstorm (even though it was exactly the same as it is now). This big mess here all started with 1.26 and 1.27.

Indeed, the last updates have put pvp on the top scene. Pvp now gives xp. Pvp now gives money. It has even been made part of alignment quests. But that's not necessarily a bad thing, as one can still chose if he will pvp or pvm, and the results are around the same. Still, naturally it has made people think more about pvp balance. Also, sacriers and xelors currently aren't overpowered at all. Both are actually kind of below other classes, now, pvp wise.

Answering the topic:

I agree that fecas are a little saturated... They aren't weak, but also aren't too fun anymore. They could give them a new spark by creating some new, usefull spells...

what are you guys talkin about no one wants to play em cuz their boring not cuz their weak ive seen plenty of fecas both lvl 5x in the pvp game or 1xx+ that all are amazing you gotta be retarded to say their weak

Doomtizzle, Fecas used to be very fun to play but then they were nerfed to oblivion which took most of the fun out. Senselessly nerfed actually, as they weren't by any means overpowered in PvP at the time.

They were, instead, overpowered in pvm.

This post has been edited by milodrahirth: 18 Nov 2009, 15:17

No more so than some other classes. Now they're underpowered in everything and all but dying out.

ever seen the new Backlash?

31~37 3AP 1/35ch !?

talk about defensive class...

Going strength on a feca sacrifices fecas shield spells and in my opinion is pointless. If you want a combat feca make an iop.

the best shield spell of the feca arsenal, the Feca Shield, most usefull on high levells and based of % reduction is not linked to intelligence.