Sacriers are going downstream! >:O First of all... I like to announce that Sacriers are getting weaker each nerf while noone comlains about it, meanwhile they're also getting to suck in PvM, so that means harder training, Swap is a dumb spell it only got a range of 1 -.-" please delete that spell and give us a new Strength spell or something, Wise Punishment that always was giving us Wisdom has been taken away, so harder leveling and protect from MP and AP rapes and we can't protect ourselves good against it, if we're MP raped, we're doomed because we can't move, so can't get closer to the enemy, and if AP raped can't attack, or can't cast an offensive spell... I'd like to get the old punishment calculation back ._. that gives us like 40 of an punishment each attack, and Blood Thirsty Madness is just pointless unless you wanna kill your team mate, and flying sword is just plain dumb, if you're putting the old punishment calculation back, put dancing sword in the place of flying sword

And if you guys are going to flame and stuff, what about Iops that just SS or Wrath you? and what about Cras that AP, MP AND range rape you? I'm not saying that I lose to them but, many, many people complain about them, especially Iops, complain that they get nerfed, and Iops STILL haven't been nerfed...

Another thing, add new content Ankama! People are going not because of graphics, but because of not adding new content in the past two years! That's what I call: Bad Service!

My oppinion is that sacriers were too strong and they just made them more possible to win. If you want to avoid ap and mp loses then wear a set that gives you more wis, as anyone else does.
All classes have some spells that are useless or people don't usually use them. I've seen sacriers doing great things with the spells that you mentioned as useless... and I think that, at least, till lvl100 sacriers get better and better.

Ok, i've got to admit that Blood Thirsty Madness is a really dumb spell >_>

lol Bloodthirsty Madness is my favorite spell, and not just out of the sacrier spell selection >:D... besides its a good heal spell... Summon a cawwot, eat a cawwot, summon a chafer eat a chafer, summon a sword eat a sword, see a prism, eat the prism, see a noob, EAT THE NOOB >:D...

Swap is an incredible spell, makes soooo many high end dungeons much easier, and with a skilled sacrier, can do a lot to make the battle faster/winnable. In my opinion, the difference between a bad sac and a good sac is how well they use swap (and the other map manipulation spells, but swap is amazing).

I would also add that there are quite a few excellent uses for blood thirsty madness, and a lot of my high end (180+) sacrier friends use it in every fight, and cant wait for level 6. Buffing others with pain shared, cheap heal from a tree (or healing tree), getting an optimum punishment, or taking some hp away from the cra in the back who doesnt need his hp so he can survive.

This post has been edited by Mentor-III: 8 Nov 2009, 07:19

To those reading this thread;

1. Read this post.
2. Imagine the exact opposite to what he has said.

You now have my opinion