1.29 Cras I've heard some people say ankama admitted to making the 1.29 cra overpowered in pvp and are nerfing them soon.. is this true or is it just another rumor? People keep comparing them with agi xels

I hope so cuz they are so overpowered!

Cras have been underpowering for so long and for once they are good. You seriously want to make them that weak again?

These cra update is barely new so don't exept to figure out their weakness that quick, take your time. Wait till someone figures a way to win.



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This post has been edited by thisgameizfun: 11 Oct 2009, 00:04

I agree.. I made a cra because of the update and I love what they've changed. To the people that say the cra is overpowered, can you explain what is overpowered about it?

I have agility cra, and i think its really little overpowered

What i meant to say is that cras are overpowered and i hope they just get a little bit weaker cuz they rape mp and ap from distance ( a very loooooooong distance).

Read my post please, I said that they are new and it might take a while until someone find a good tactics against them. Just wait before you yell who/what is overpowering.



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None of our agility spells were changed much. Plauging does more damage but only 2 cast per player. Absorptives damage is less random but less damage on a crit, 1/50 base crit hits, and a minimum of 5 range. Retreat is better than it was. Maybe Retreat could be OP at low levels? I wouldn't know. I don't see anything overpowered about it.

Yeah, Cras are better now. but people are complaining about getting beat by them cause they dont have a STG yet. i am level 122 str cra with a very nice set and im still getting killed by xelor/osa/fecas i think the classes are perfect the way they are now. i also have a level 200 xelor and i love it. if you think cras are overpowered then make one:P CaSpEr you friendly rosal cra

Lashing does earth damage but can be easily considered a spell for every type of build. I think it was buffed in 1v1. 1 cast per turn and rapes 3 always. Combined with retreat+atonement+dispersing makings cra a bit harder to reach. Absorptive does impressive non-crit damage as well as crit damage, I was able to reach nearly 600 damage per hit on my 193 cra who has 0 points in agi, in a pure agi set though. (buffed of course)

no sir the cras arnt overpowered at all. they were so weak compared to the new ones that the new ones seen very strong. and most ppls i guess are happy that cras are finally getting a chance to shine. and those who think cras are overpowered make one and see for urself.high lvl cras were good een before but their low lvl weaknesses hardly allowed much ppls to get to high lvls. ther are a new class now. take ur time to learn them then comment.

Take your time to learn some English, I had a hard time reading that. "Cras aren't overpowered, they're just stronger than the old ones, a lot stronger" Yuh huh, and Fecas aren't underpowered at all, just a lot more useless than before.

I have fought several Cras. First turn they rape my range, then they rape my MP. We don't exactly have a lot of options!

Iops would be SOME use against them, their spells are all close quarters anyway, with Jump to get in close, but Retreat Arrow or Dispersing Arrow, plus 4mp, the Iop has to use 5ap just to get close again. One Pressure. Yay. Meanwhile Cra just knocks you back again and takes a few AP while dealing a bit of damage, and repeats until Iop dies.

And don't even say Sram - That's my class, and I've never won. Invisibility doesn't help when you can only cast traps next to you. Bat's Eye doesn't need to be AoE and doesn't need such a short cooldown.

Osamodas doesn't help, insane range, just ignore the summons and kill the Osa. They do enough damage, gawd.

i don't think that lvl 120+ is much of a problem for any class, really. Everyone has all their spells, plenty of spell points to invest in them, reached their stat caps and has plenty of equipment to choose from. To fight Cras there, I'd equip myself some 6mp and +range gear, use my 2ap Double to annoy them, and run around casting Lethal traps. Unfortunately, I can't do ANY of that at lvl 63.

And this is where the money is - Higher levels can just solo a dungeon and soul the boss, train up a mount while they're at it and sell the drops to make money. Down at this level, the best thing is to use Strokens to get scrolls to either sell or invest in Wisdom to get to that high level stage faster, and while they're at it, getting some sweet exp.

And I don't believe in making another character just because that class is overpowered. That's just making the problem worse, I prefer to stick to my very powerful Sram, who is only powerful through expensive equipment and sheer intelligence and strategy on my behalf. As such I can usually easily beat the "invincible" Intel Sacriers without so much as a scratch. Except that one with 5mp. He owns me.

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This post has been edited by Deadly-Bagel: 12 Oct 2009, 12:29

Im just saying that Intel Sacs tend to have 7MP and they are annoying as hell.

At what level? Bit difficult to get that and still have decent stats at lvl 60-90, which is where all the trouble is. Unless you're an Agi character. In which case you can easily have 7mp by lvl 90 and still have decent stats.

Just to clarify, when I made this post I wasn't saying cras are overpowered(whether that's true or not). I was only asking if they might be nerfed soon.

The only spell I think that could be a bit of an issue for other classes is Bat's Eye. I do find it very useful when I fight. I think it might be a bit more balanced if it was 1-6 or 1-5 range at all levels and not adjustable. This would make it more of a "take their range and try to get away while you can" spell instead of a "take their range, mp rape, and push them back to leave them helpless" spell.

Also, this might not be topic related, could someone explain to me the possible uses of tormenting arrow? I could understand the uses if it were maybe for a hybrid build, but it has a minimum range of 5 and is linear. Maybe using retreat arrow then tormenting, after they are further away, for more damage? In my opinion, it wouldn't be a spell you could use every turn and could only do nice damage with a hybrid build. This might be a good spell to get rid of if someone came up with something to replace it that might be useful for more than one build.

Any opinions?

Hmm, I don't see how people are saying bats eye is overpowered now. How long have Cras had it? Now it does water damage, but if the cra isn't chance the damage he will do with it won't be too hardcare.

As for Tormenting Arrow, it is one of my favorite spells now. With Bow Skill for + damages and Powerful Shooting with 250% damage, plus all of my base and boost Agility, It can do some devastating damage. Obviously you can see that I am an agility character, so I use Tormenting on enemies with air % and -fire% such as the Rat Tchets in The Black Rat Dungeon. With a combo of one Absorptive Arrow and two Tormenting I can still do sufficent damage on enemies who are resistant to me.

This post has been edited by puntang: 12 Oct 2009, 13:44

Done, 8MP Int. Sac, job done, never lost.

Just because one class that's clearly well above average in PvP can beat a class does not prove anything.

My iop is level 6x and has 9 ap, 7 mp, and 1.3k hp without vitality spell and any scrolls and has never lost. Does this mean every class is balanced at level 6x?

They should have atleast a 2 damage reduction on ALL their overpowered spells... I seriously cannot even hit a agility cra now.. and I am a sacrier

To be honest with you, agility cras haven't changed much. I think all they did was move spells nothing more and nothing less.

Just wait till you get to level 100 then you will hardly see any difference. Plus think of agility cras as your weakness, you can't beat

everyone and dominate.



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