leveling tailor has anyone levelled a tailor since v1.17? i'm going the wooden wings route since i am a lumberjack but that won't work for much longer. i'm determined to get 100/100 tailor/mage

EDIT: the information here is out of date because of new recipies. posts starting on page 3 are as of update 1.20 and after lvl 69 i start talking about using new recipies.

Yes i have lved but it took ages to get even to lv 5. You'll want a hell of a lot of white & black gobbly wool for the Gobbly bags because they're pretty much the only way to lv.

Yeah, the gobbly bags are better than the wooden wings. You can get 400 black and white gobbly wool in like 3-4 hours..... LOL!

Or do 3-4 dungeon runs a day and you'll get about 200..

Or you can chop wood for hours and hours and hours and hours and have thousands of wood and end up with 100 planks... *sighs*

yes but... i'm already a lvl 64 lumberjack and i intend on getting to 100. and 3-4 dungeon runs a day? are you nuts?!? i have a life! lol.

in any case i'm lvl 9 so mostly i'm looking at later stuff.

edit: although it would be nice to be able to make runes from what i level on so the bags do have that advantage

It only takes me 15 minutes to half an hour to do a gobball dungeon run

So it's max two hours.

yeah, but you do it by yourself, right? (with your various accounts).

i can't run two clients on my poor little ibook and i'm only lvl 54, one of the highest in my guild. so gathering the peeps to do this takes more than that for me plus none of us can do any real damage plus a lot of us aren't very good XD. anyway this was a pointless response. sorry.

Well, if you don't have the power/connections/money to get the materials quickly, you might want to consider holding off on being a tailor. Get a couple more professions (LJ 100 will help a lot), build up your guild or find a more powerful one, and level your char. It's a very taxing profession, most aren't up to the task

I've done it once by myself with just my sram (total fluke, I got abandoned in the last room and went for it anyways)

And I can do it 100% of the time time with 1 ally as long as they are around level 40-50. Depends on their speed. That's why it's 15-30 minutes.

Are you on Rushu? I do it 2-4 times every night (I have so many bow meows that I am starving, found someone to buy dead ones for 3,000 each) and I'd let you come with me. I'm looking for royal gobball drops. (before anyone says they are too rare, I have gotten 2 in the past week)

But yeah, tailor is kind of the hold off till later prof. Kind of like handyman.

i'm a lvl 100 baker/farmer, lvl 64 lumberjack and lvl 25 hammer forger. my current plan (now that i am on holidays) is to lvl lumberjack to 100, buy a house with the help of my guild, get everyone to drop gobball wool and stuff for me (b/c me having money is hella good for the guild). i'll make runes with the stuff i produce.

and lecter, sorry i'm on maimane. parlez-vous français?

For tailor being a farmer can com in very handy, but lumberjack can also work quite well for getting some flax string sorted.

firstly lvl it to 10, only making gobbly bags, from 10 white and 10 black wool.

after lvl 10 create helmets, all u need for these are 5 gobball wool, 10 black gobbly leather and 10 flax string.

this way is by far the fastest way to lvl ur tailor, and it is the most least expensive, as other ways can cost u in time and money searching for materials.

And after that?

Are you a level 20-30 tailor or something?

ok, tailor lvl 14 or so. getting to 20 will be easy (except the fact the black gobly leather seems to be a bit rare). then what? i have quite a few kamas to buy materials but i wan't recipes that i don't loose all my money on. i did a bit of a study on 3 ingredient recipes and helmets are the only viable option, even if you break things for runes.

edit: i tried dropping the materials i needed and it just doensn't work for me. even with 7ap, 4mp and punch of the crackler (makes things go pretty fast) plus my guild mates contributing their leathers and wools. i'd rather buy the stuff b/c i have a couple of other lvl 100 professions.

its easy, which server are u on?for example, just type in at busy areas of dofus, "buying black gobbly leather 10k each" etc etc, and place ur price depending to ur server. its a cheaper way of buying ur materials, as form resource sales froms can be very expensive, but apart from that, the flax sting if ur not a farmer can be quite expensive, also but u can trade in 1 ash wood for 1 flax string, but doing these single trades can be very boring.

yeah, i was doing everything i could to avoid yelling in game for it but i had to do it. i actually offered a pretty good price because i didn't want to do it for long. and i'm a lvl 100 farmer so flax is not a problem. in fact i found out that flax string goes for over twice as much as flax XD so whenever i want some for my tailor i don't have any because i've sold it all. i'm beginning to see what the wikia means about patience but most of all, how much money this will cost me (the investment). glad i have a couple of other professions. i might even want lumberjack at 100 just for the money . it will be cool to be a tailormage, there are only like 2 or 3 active on my server as far as i can see.

so. the question remains, how do i lvl from 20 to 30? something that i can sell, break or for runes, has readily available materials and that i don't loose more than a few hundred kamas on each craft (i make 100 000 a day or so with my other business endeavours, on a medium server).

what do you think of the bearman cloak for a viable 4 slot recipe

http://dofus.wikia.com/wiki/Bearman_cloak

btw i'm lvl 16 now and know what i'll do up to 20. please continue to comment and/or help. hopefully this helps other tailors out there too

I'm up to level 28 tailor, but I dont want to flood the helmet market.

I have more wood than I know what to do with:



So I guess technically I'm an Ash-Hole....groan.....sowwy

Darius

May not help much, but from 35 to 60, I leveled on Small Bluish Cloaks, Small Red Cloaks, and Slob Headgears.

It never hurts however to do your maximum slot recipes still; since that reduces the amount of kamas you have to spend on lower resources.

yeah! lvl 20! (now what ^^) i can't seem to find bear fur (or whatever its called, etoffe ourse)

Go fight that bearman guy.. You get all the drops from him.

LEVELING FROM 20 TO 30 ON HELMETS

helmets cost me about 675 if I buy the mats (i actually only buy the gobbly leather). to lvl from 20 to 30 i need to make 450 of these so that would cost 303 750 =

helmets don't sell very well (espcially p*450 of them where p is my success rate at about .6). i wouldn't expect to sell that many helmets for more than 200 each wo .6*450*200 = 270*200 = 54 000

net loss of 249 750 by leveling on helmets.

i went there and he seemed to drop like 1 every 2-3 fights which i could usually get from the person for 1000 kamas. the price is ok but the drop rate is low.

VARIETY FOR 20 to 30
i'm going to try variety so i have a wider range of ingredients and stuff to sell afterwards. the things i think are profitable (on maimane) are
Bearman Headgear coiffe de l'homme ours Level: 20
Effects: 21-35 vitality Weight: 10 pods
Conditions: None
NPC: kamas
1 Bear Skin
1 Bear Fabric
1 Bear Hair
1 Mutilated Bear

1*2000 + 1*1000 + 1*_ 1*3000;
6000 + hair

1. sells for 10 000 or so
[*]worth making i think

Jouik Krampe Level: 26 Effects: +1 to summonable creatures 11-50 Intelligence Weight: 15 pods Conditions: Class = Sadida NPC: ? kamas 10 Black Gobball wool 10 Black Tiwabbit Hairs 1 Dark Bag of Spuds 1 Flax String 10*30 + 10*500 + 1*4000 + 1*30; 9330 sells for 20-25 00 Houde Level: 30 Effects: +11-50 Chance 1-2 to critical hits Weight: 8 pods Conditions: None NPC: ? kamas 10 Boar hair 10 Flax String 1 Green Larva magic skin 1 Tofu feather 10*5 +10*30 + 1*10000 + 1*50; 10 400 sells for 10 to 30 000 (mostly 20 - 30)

forum didn't like the long post. sorry the tabbing doesn't copy

Bearman cloak Level: 20
Effects:


11-15 vitality
11-15 agility

Weight: 10 pods

Conditions: None
NPC: ? kamas

1 x Bear Fabric.
1 x Boar hair.
1 x Mouse's Hairs.
1 x Wabbit Hair.

1*1000 + 1*5 + 1*300 +1*200;
1505

1. bear fabric is rare
[*]sells for 10 to 15 000

(can you tell i'm determined to make to 100? XD)

LOL!

Yeah

The only problem I have with these things is, do they actually sell?? The ability to sell for a profit does not always make a profit.

I can make 20 bashers for 30,000k and they 'sell' for 150,000 total. But they takes AGES to sell and actually pop back into my bank account a lot of the time forcing me to relist.

Or 20 Elories for about 5000 and they sell for 40000 in total.. But once again, take too long to sell.

A lot of the time, you are better off finding something that will turn a profit with the sale to NPCs.

i'll find out soon enough XD. i think they sell, at least i see people wearing some of them, like bear gear and the sadida hat thing. if i only loose 500 on a helmet that would be like loosing 1000 on a 4 slot recipe (since 3 slots xp 25 and 4 xp 50) or... maybe i'm not accounting for the failure rate properly but anyway, these things i'm trying are only worth it if they make money because as you can see if there were to be a loss it could be thousands on each item.

Jah, therein lies the problem with purchase of stock vs drop stock. Well, give it a test, and let me know how long it takes to sell and get your money back.

back to my idea on variety, i think that it will take a long time, is complicated and risky and floods the market. I may be making things worse for tailors in general by doing this.

i can now make 2 slot recipes withought failing and have multiple accounts for dropping stuff so i think i will make small grower bags, break them for runes. these always sell. I may need 18000 wools to get from lvl 23 to 30 but at least i'm guaranteed a profit even if I buy them. mass crafting will help here. wool for 30 tofu feather for 50 (for example) bag costs 850, average 200 pods, divide by 16 to get number of runes thats 12 runes which sells for 1200

Yeah, this is what I meant above by things have to sell.. The runes will always sell cause of forgemage levelling, so this might be a better idea. I'll suggest it to my tailor

actually i have half a mind to keep the runes and use them to level my own forgemage(s) when i get there.

Yeah, I was just thinking that too. Apparently it took 5,000 odd runes to level to 100 before the XP nerf, now it take 3-4 times as much. If you're making that many bags, with that many runes, you might be able to become high level mage as soon as you can mage!

we might be on to something here.

reflecting further i did quick calculation. if you can drop the items 1 bear fabric, boar hair, mouse hair and wabbit hair make a bearman cloak which supposedly sells for a lot more than these items (2-3 times or more). you only need to make around 250 of these to lvl from 20-30... still though, try putting your 150 succesful crafts on the market and see what happens to the price ><

250... with 4-5 accounts i only drop a bear hair every two to three fights, each take 2 minutes because of lag (and i would have to hog the bear man, no biggie, its night in france when i play a lot of the time) so thats 750 bearman fights, 25 hours! (good god!), mouse and boar hairs are easy to buy, wabbit hairs not so much but they drop faster. say another 3-5 hours. so in 30 hours i do 10 levels...

need to do around 1100 bags to accomplish the same thing 1100*20 = 22000 and 1100*5 = 5500. again with multiple accounts i drop 5-10 white gobbly wools per fight, if i fight in my favourite spot it takes 1min per fight, double this because sometimes i need to eliminate other monsters to spawn more white gobblies. 2*22000/7/60 = 104 hours! argghh! (can you tell i'm seeing this for the first time?) plus the time for the feathers.

to further establish the comparison consider that 100x wgw and 25x tf XP's the same as 1 bear fab, 1 boar hair, 1 mouse hair, 1 wabbit hair...

so the former takes 2*100/7 = 28 minutes + time for feathers and the latter takes say 10 minutes (eyeballing).

so... i retract former statements on the issue and will try the bearman cloaks. sorry guys, i didn't say i had any clean answers. hope someone finds something useful in my rants here.

Well, the calcs are useful.

I'm not the tailor myself, so I can't comment on how long it takes me. But I will show my tailor friend this thread tomorrow when he's at my house, and get him to give em a burl, then post our findings.

ok, you guys are really gonna get sick of me so as a reward, when i've figured it all out and gotten to 100 i'll do my best to sum up on the wikia.

further reflection tells me that the gobball bags are more profitable

1. the drops are more valuable (you'll be getting all the gobball drops)

2. black gob leather also helps level your tailor. so does the black wool i think.

3. there is only one bearman, lots of gobbals

4. the stuff you need is also often available in sell rooms whereas bear fur is difficult to find.

5. you'll have almost enough pod runes by the end of it all to level a mage to 100

6. i'm absolutely sure you will make much more money (per hour) doing the gobballs than the bearman.

i think thats it. i'm doing the gobballs. btw i have PoC for my osa so i go to the map near the entrance to tanela where i can smash all but two enemies in the first hit.

Yup, that will get ya to what? Level 30 the easiest? Then I can't work out what to do, all the 4 slot recipes cost too much.

Although, you could take all the thousands you've made from fighting gobballs and spend it on getting to level 40.

yes, level 20 to 30. the problem is that you need so many drops to level a tailor (as opposed to gathered items) that you can't buy it all in a reasonable amount of time either.

as im only a lvl 30-40 tailor im not sure what you should lvl on, im still sticking with helemets, but you sould remember to only make items that have lot item costs, stick to items that are easy got and not rare.

items such as
Sortingat Hogwat

its not always about making profit of your crafts at this stage, this is another reason why you need to have other professions that can generate alot of income at a fast rate. and why tailor should not be taken as a first profession.

might be of interest. i dropped with 5 accounts (4 enus one osa) for ~2.5 hours. sorry for the franglish. bouf = gob, blan = white, laine = wool, boufton = gobbly, corne= horn, cuir = leather, sabot = hoof. i had intended this for me but sometimes such stats are helpful and since i think i have free reign of this thread and i'm dropping for my tailor i put it here

dropped for ~2.5 hours
got 25 000 kamas, 2x gob capes 3x gob belts, 8 ethereal weaps, 2x gob hammers, 2x gob boots, 1x white parchment, 1 yellow metaria, 2 red metaria, 5 gobball warchief teeth, 4 GWC tongues, 2 stems, 3 tofu beaks, 3 tofu eggs, 7 boufton eyes, 6 tiques, 3 gob keys, 8 tof feathers, 2 sabot bouf, 2 corn GWC, 1 blue metaria, 6 parenp powder, 2 arakne legs, 1 sabot GWC, 27 GWC laines, 186 cuir bouf, 84 cornes, 21 cuir bouf blan, 51 clovers, 175 black laines, 173 noir cuir, 260 bouf laines, 9 bouf brains, 221 baves, 145 white laines, 121 cuir GWC

estimate 245 000!

my estimate before had been that i would spend 100 hours or so doing this, lets see how accurate this is so far. 145/2.5 = 58 white wools per hour. 22000/100 = 220 wools per hour. so my estimate is indeed off and I will take over twice as long as i though i would >< . on the other hand i've 173 black leathers and those will return twice as much xp (but no money/pods) as the wools.

i still think this is a good strategy

ok, while you have all been napping and possibly checking this thread for tips on how to level your tailor I have been squirreling away at it and am now lvl 32. since i don't get a new recipe slot till 40 i will continue the same way.

THE BULK OF THE LEVELING FROM 10 TO 32 HAS BEEN ON HELMETS AND SMALL RED CAPES (somme small collector bags too, these are profitable but there isn't enough white gobball wool around). I have anumber of other jobs and can afford to lose a LOT on my tailor (which i have). I did small red capes (which are much more expensive) because they weren't TOO expensive and there wasn't enough black gobbly leather on the market to do things the other way. I believe (even with more than one account) that dropping the ingredients is not practical for me.

I bough the materials at almost any price, often 4 or 5 times as much as usual, emptying out the sellrooms. getting from lvl 23 or so to 30 cost me 400 000.

I'm busy making money in my other professions . stay tuned, more to come.

my question now is

WHAT IS A GOOD 5 SLOT RECIPE TO LEVEL ON?

I'm nearly a lvl 50 tailor, and have done most of my lvling with five slots on Mad Boowolf Cloaks (I spend approx. 7kk per attempt, sell for about 7-9kk, if they sell). Good luck!

I was looking at that, but they don't sell very often apparently (on Rushu anyways) cause I checked the sellrooms over a few days and there was none in there.

Nyneave is my least favourite character in Wheel of Time. LOL.

i'll check the prices on my server. i just got to 40 on small red capes and helmets.

edit: yeah, the capes sell for 10-50kK and the recipe would cost around 12kK. with a success rate of 70% i would have to sell at around 17kK to be profitable so I think I will try this. Also I was able to lower the average price of the boowolf hairs by 20% by selling and buying one really cheaply a bunch of times so that might chop 2000 off the cost.

lol.... I like her... but I also just like the series a bunch. Have you thought about Great Grower bags? That's the other recipe I've used a lot. The wabbit gwandpa beard hairs are expensive though.

anyone tried maimpa cloaks?

it seems to me that even with a failure rate of 30%, there are a number of 5 slots recipies that are profitable (ie sell for more than price of mats divided by success rate).

i have my eye on large collecter bags, kwak capes. anyone else got ideas?

Kwak capes can be bloody expensive to make. But they sell for heaps

You should try handyman, I'm in the same boat as you now. I spent 30,000 kamas levelling to 10 last night.

ok. i'm now tailor lvl 49 and i'm fairly clear on what to do till 100.

a few tips for those leveling from lvl 10 to 60

if you have money and want to get there fast level on helmets, why? because the ingredients are readily available. almost all other recipies have an ingredient that is not common enough for quick leveling. to do this lvl a farmer to 100 (recipes), buy black gobbly leather at any price (39 600 of them), harvest the same amount of flax, trading it for flax string, buy 1/2 this much gobbal wool (very cheap and common). sell all you helmets to npc's

as you go along with your helmets you should keep and eye out for the ingredients of: mad boowolf cloak, maimpa cloak, great collecter bag (this sells the best out of the expensive things), that little gobbal wool or collecter bag w/ 20 whites and 5 tofu feathers, that sadi hat that gives int and +creatures, black tiwabbit hairs, plains boar hairs, mokette (maybe). obviously you should make these things whenever you can but its the helmets that will level you.

you other option is to level on helmets to 40 (rather than 60) and then treat tailor as a money making profession. you might never make it to 100 this way but certain recipies pay off a little even with a success rate of 69%. May depend on your server but great collecter bags seem to sell ok. to calculate the price divide the cost of the ressources by your success rate and sell for more than that.

After level ten could I level off the Bontarian and Brakmarian cloaks or are they wastes of time? Aren't they more profitable since they are needed for alignment quests?
Are there anyother recipes that done well with good leveling/resale like wooden wings, helmet and such. I'm thinking of going full resource mode soon and would like to know.

you refer to these recipies:
Bontarian cloak (1) 1 Crow feather, 1 Magic Bluish Dye, 1 White Gobbly wool (hidden recipe)
Brakmarian Cloak (1) 1 Black Gobbly Wool, 1 Chafer Bone, 1 Magic Dark Dye (hidden recipe)

these cloaks are for alignment quests beyond the 20th one which means the rewards for completing them (up to 40 or 60) have not been implemented. I don't think the amount of people doing these quests (they each need five cloaks) is sufficient to keep up with the amount of production required to level efficiently, even on busy servers. Also, these recipes are not that cheap (the dye). Even if you eventually did sell all your cloaks for at least cost your money would be invested for a long time.

On older servers especially you should be selling your helmets to NPCs

I just started tailor as well, leveld it to 15 in 1 day, just kept buying black and white wools out of sell room though if u check astrub black wool is alot cheaper... haha foolish f2p ppl.

anyways one questions when do i switch from 2 slots to 3 slots. thx, i wanan hit 50 by the end of this month.