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[News] We have a very important announcement!
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 November 30, 2009, 18:38:15 |
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[News] We have a very important announcement!
 DOFUS 1.29 + DOFUS 2.0First things first, welcome to the new DOFUS community site! As the title of this news might suggest, we have a very important announcement to make! On December 2, DOFUS 2.0 was supposed to replace the current version of DOFUS. However, we feel that version 2.0 is not yet ready and that it is too early to completely migrate the community over to it. As such, we have decided to leave 1.29 playable and open to everyone, and to launch 2.0 in parallel. How will that work? We will officially launch DOFUS 2.0 the morning of 2 December, as planned, but only on new servers that will have doubled XP and drops for 2 weeks. You will be able to play DOFUS 1.29 and DOFUS 2.0 with the same account.  Then what? Don’t worry! DOFUS 2.0 is progressing rapidly, and performance is improving every day. The entire team is working extremely hard make this first version a success that will appeal to everyone. We are doing everything we can to achieve that goal! From December 2 you'll be able to move in to DOFUS 2.0 on new servers with new characters, when you want, without any obligation. Then, when everything is in order, we will encourage you to join DOFUS 2.0, with new features and new content - of which Frigost forms a part - currently being created. These last minute changes have, of course, led to other changes. Services related to Ogrines have been pushed back because they mainly concerned characters migrating from DOFUS to DOFUS 2.0. Ogrines have been pushed back a little, and we’ll talk more about them soon. The Premium House will only be present on DOFUS 2.0. Mea culpa Now, on behalf of Ankama, I would like to apologize for these last minute changes and the stress that our initial decision must have caused many of you as the release date approaches. Today, the proposed solution should - we hope - keep everyone happy. Those of you who want to continue playing 1.29 and move smoothly on to DOFUS 2.0 later, those of you who love DOFUS 2.0 and want to have the opportunity to discover all-new, unexplored servers where former DOFUS players can meet up with current players and newcomers. This solution should also fully satisfy Ankama’s DOFUS team who will have the opportunity to evolve and improve DOFUS 2.0 week after week and calmly prepare long-awaited new content! The dates and key stages to come: December 2: Launch of a new server: Zatoïshwan  December 15: 4 new subscription pets on DOFUS 1 and DOFUS 2.0  See you soon and thanks in advance for your understanding! Manu Emmanuel DARRAS, Co-Founder of Ankama |
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November 30, 2009, 19:10:45 |
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Typical....
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November 30, 2009, 19:12:41 |
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The new servers are permanent? Can we transfer our characters here?
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November 30, 2009, 19:12:41 |
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Thats mean 1.29 will be playable for ever or only for time while dofus 2.0 is not completely ready?
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November 30, 2009, 19:15:29 |
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Mm new server hot!
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November 30, 2009, 19:18:34 |
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 does this mean there will be a Christmas Island this year for those who are sticking on 1.29 until 2.0 is fully finished? |
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November 30, 2009, 19:25:04 |
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But i rly don`t understand so if i play in 1.29 server i can meet mine friend who is in 2.0 server?
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November 30, 2009, 19:27:07 |
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Two questions....
So, if I move my cra from Rushu to this 2.0 server, he will have to stay there? I wouldn't be able to move him back? and PLEASE TELL ME WHY!!! I'm looking through the new site and the new characters and I come across cras and their spells... and I see... every single attack spell they have is LINEAR?! Then, I look at other characters, characters I know have spells that were not linear and I see... MORE linear spells. It's really gonna suck for Xelors that went from Dark Ray to Hand when they see... oh no, HAND is linear too. You know, Ankama does a lot of cool stuff... a nice amount of sugar. But when it comes to medicine, you guys really ruin things. ugh... I really think I've had enough of Dofus. Later |
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November 30, 2009, 19:32:24 |
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Quote (Eggrolls @ 30 November 2009 20:18)  does this mean there will be a Christmas Island this year for those who are sticking on 1.29 until 2.0 is fully finished?I do hope  |
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November 30, 2009, 19:36:45 |
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Zatoishwan is a new EN/Int server, it will always be with us, just like Rushu, Rosal, Shika and Solar. However, it is beginning its life with the 2.0 code instead of the 1.29 code.
Our other servers (Rushu, Rosal, Solar, and Shika) will all eventually become 2.0 servers. We will announce when they are scheduled to migrate from 1.29 to 2.0, but for now, they will stay 1.29. Just like any other server, you can choose to create a brand new character on Zatoishwan to play with your friends on 2.0, or continue playing on your current server and wait for it to switch to 2.0 at a later time. If that's not clear, don't hesitate to ask more questions. =) |
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November 30, 2009, 19:50:29 |
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Izmar can you tell us if kwismas island will be out this year ?
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November 30, 2009, 20:03:58 |
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Why so shocked!
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November 30, 2009, 20:03:41 |
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Very dispointed *shakes head with shame*
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November 30, 2009, 20:04:06 |
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ok let me get this straight ...
dofus 1.26 came out more than a year ago and amaka said ... wait for us dofus 2.0 will be out soon then dofus 1.27, 1.28 and 1.29 somewhere in the mix we learned that dofus 2.0 would be awhile( a year or more) now with a lot of fan fare and whopla we get dofus 2.0 will be out but only on "new servers" and these servers will have double xp and drops for 2 weeks while migration from 1.29 to dofus 2.0 comes thru... something dosen't add up to me, ok here it is, you can play dofus 2.0 but you can't use any charecters that you have worked hard on for how ever long but you can start new ones to work hard on and get double xp and drops while the people who chose not to start over get standard drops and xp and amakas repaonce is to give us new subscription pets.... come on guys offer us something to sink our teeth into i stopped using pets at lvl 65, mounts do more than pets dont die and gain real value.... let us have the doble drops or xp or some prospectin candy or xp candy give us something that will at least lvl the playing field. i have waited a long time for dofus 2.0 and all i have gotten was wait and wait and wait some more, now i get start a new charecter and you can play ... thanks but no thanks until enu and sadi have babies money wont grow on trees rastlinsgold - rosal |
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November 30, 2009, 20:07:37 |
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When will Rushu, Solar etc. The servers not being moved over on the 2nd, When will they get 2x exp and drop? And when are they being moved over?
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November 30, 2009, 20:11:58 |
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Just so it is clear... 2.0 will still just beta then on the regular servers? So anything done there will be for bug finding/reporting, but all character development/progress will still have to be done in 1.29?
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November 30, 2009, 20:13:24 |
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I don't know but I think they will be migrated to 2.0 depending on population. Shika has a low population compared to Rosal and Rushu, so it might be the first server... some ''people'' didn't like 2.0 so it's normal they will do it starting by the less populated server.
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November 30, 2009, 20:16:12 |
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yer can are characters be transferred D:
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November 30, 2009, 20:21:05 |
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I'm pretty angry at this moment for a reason, why the new server, apart of enjoying the 2.0 version earlier than anyone, is going to have drop and xp bonus? Also Ankama should launch this announcement with more time, not 2 days before the launching
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November 30, 2009, 20:36:23 |
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The posters on this board never fail to amaze me.
People bitch and whine due to Ankama's release of 2.0 being later than expected. When the release does finally get imminent people bitch and whine about the form it takes and the many glitches. Now people bitch and whine when Ankama confesses 2.0 isn't ready for prime time, and decide to hold off on releasing it on all servers until it is... yet at the same time opens up a new English/International sever (something else people have been bitching and whining for) for those that don't want to wait for 2.0 and wish to play it on the announced date, despite it perhaps still having a few issues. Ankama is bending over backwards to try cater to everyone this time around, and is still getting pounded from behind. I find their willingness to admit 2.0 still needs some work, and to pull it back from existing servers for the moment despite the amount of heat they would get, and the Divine surely knows Ankama gets heat over the most infinitesimal things on a continual basis, to be a professional and courageous act on their part. A lot of companies would just trot it out on existing servers at this point to save face, no matter what the situation was, and frankly that I is what I expected Ankama to do. Ankama is doing the right thing this time around, what could be considered a refreshing change. Too bad many here can't extract themselves from 'bitch and whine' mode for a moment to see it. Same old, same old. Edit: As far as those switching to the new server to play 2.0 also getting an experience and drop bonus, this is the same any time a server is announced. For some server launches exclusive pets have been offered as enticement as well. There is nothing unusual about either for a launch, and any with a open character slot can take advantage about it, so it is nothing to bitch and whine about either. |
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November 30, 2009, 20:40:50 |
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Well don't know. Seriously I'm a bit disappointed. This 2.0 tease was been going on for over a year now. Indeed as far as eye-candy is concerned it looks amazing, hat's off to you for that. But on the other side 1 year of development, assuming a month or so of testing before first beta was released, 2 months of beta community testing and still putting it off... Ugly.
Not sure how opening brand new server will make anyone happy, least of all everyone. Players have friends on their servers, most of them have high lvl chars on which they worked for years I really don't see them going and starting a new char on a brand new server for the double xp and a not even complete new version of dofus. I understand your desire to launch 2.0 fairly bug free and with new areas, but coming 1 day before what was a really "in your face" deadline announced and saying you're still working on the new area... You need a new project manager guys. Seriously, someone's really screwing the development plan over there. No one actually realized until today that the launch won't be possible? Come on... Is it a subtle move on trying to thin the population on the crowded servers. Either way, in the same spirit Ankama does things in the past 2 years, it's another abuse on subscriber's addiction to this game. Really curious how much longer this thing will work. Cheers. Edit: KA agreed with SonOfShadows |
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November 30, 2009, 20:39:24 |
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Our current servers will all be moved to 2.0, but it will be at a slower rate to make sure that when it comes to the servers that are established, there are as few bugs and disturbances as possible.
We apologize for the change in plans, this system is our attempt to respond to players who have been skeptical and upset about the change from 1.29 to 2.0. The intention is to give you the best of both worlds - a new landscape to discover 2.0 without any more waiting, while those who don't want to play with possible glitches can continue building your characters without disturbances. |
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November 30, 2009, 20:41:59 |
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I live in other country, more i want play in Zatoïshwan (Because Dofus 2.0) ...I go can create a char in Zatoïshwan?
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November 30, 2009, 20:48:19 |
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Take your time, guys. As a software developer myself, I know how much goes into getting an application to work just right.
Rather release late than release something inferior. So all things considered, releasing 2.0 on a new server only for now is probably the best course of action. Looking forward to trying it out. |
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November 30, 2009, 20:50:41 |
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You know something, KA... I can say I understand where you're coming from but you're the last person that should be saying ANYTHING about people "bitching and whining". Everytime I see you post, it's with pure cynicism and negativity towards whoever you're talking to. No matter what someone says, whether positive or negative, the moment you post, it's argumentative towards them. Hush yourself.
Personally, I don't care when 2.0 comes out. It doesn't matter to me if it even does come out. I've been doing just fine on this system that i'm use to. While it's nice to see some change, I don't appreciate what they've done to the spells. Every attack spell I saw was linear. Every single one. That's what I'm concerned about. And, yes... I'm going to "bitch and whine" about it because it ruins my cra and xelor and any character I make whose spells, normally, didn't require standing in the same friggin line as their target just to hit them. KA, do me a favour. If you're going to make a reply/comment going against what I'm saying. Save it. I'm not interested. Kthnx bai~ |
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November 30, 2009, 21:11:17 |
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Quote (Rustybroomhandle @ 30 November 2009 21:48) Take your time, guys. As a software developer mydelf, I know how much goes into getting an application to woek just right. Rather release late than release something inferior. So all things considered, releasing 2.0 on a new server only for now is probably the best course of action. Looking forward to trying it out. How many times were you fired dude, if ignoring deadlines is ok in your software developer book?  As a software developer myself I must say you have quite a few problems hitting the keys right. Bit scared of seeing a piece of your code. Might have more spelling errors than programming ones >.> |
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November 30, 2009, 21:27:32 |
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Quote (Piriel @ 30 November 2009 22:11) How many times were you fired dude, if ignoring deadlines is ok in your software developer book? As a software developer myself I must say you have quite a few problems hitting the keys right. Bit scared of seeing a piece of your code. Might have more spelling errors than programming ones >.> so don't take the guy who is saying you were fired seriously, I don't think he knows much about programming. Especially since there are a lot of unexpected problems that you run into. |
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November 30, 2009, 21:29:52 |
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Aside from the fact that I really hate 2.0 so I am actually kind of happy for a delay so I can finish farming my batouta so that my eni won't look TOO horribly teeny-bopperish (batouta on 2.0 hides her face hehe) I am glad Ankama realized that people will rather play a smooth game rather then rush out 2.0 graphics update...and now that they are going to add Frigost to the 2.0 official release I actually have something to look forward too!! More content *woots*
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November 30, 2009, 21:34:49 |
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Sad for the news and a little dissapointed but I know the new versión is there, pple were playing the beta and now more pple will be playing in the new server, so I found security in the Ankama move, sure pple will get sad like me, other happy and many angry, but i tell as a player from Dofus Game (3 years) Thank you for not realeasing a bugged versión.
Only had one question, on the servers that the v1.29 will keep working, will the event kwismas island be normal like other years¿?. Sad, but again Thank you. |
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November 30, 2009, 21:35:35 |
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Quote (Haruhiism @ 30 November 2009 22:27) so don't take the guy who is saying you were fired seriously, I don't think he knows much about programming. Especially since there are a lot of unexpected problems that you run into. Development plans take into consideration unexpected problems. Deadlines are made by project managers so those problems can be discovered and fixed in the given time. Decent testing unit won't let unexpected problems pass the main testing phase. 2 months of testing on a piece of software the size of dofus is more than enough for a qualified team to uncover at least 95% of the bugs. No, no software is perfect after 2 months of testing and no I don't expect dofus to be perfect either. But saying you're still in development stage 1 day before the deadline it's crap. And btw 10 years of programming and 2 of project management. Nuf said. |
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November 30, 2009, 21:41:58 |
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Quote (SonOfShadows @ 30 November 2009 13:50) KA, do me a favour. If you're going to make a reply/comment going against what I'm saying. Save it. I'm not interested. I don't owe you any favours, nor are you in a position to command me. Further, what you find of interest is irrelevant to me. |
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November 30, 2009, 21:44:57 |
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QUOTE ohmy.gif does this mean there will be a Christmas Island this year for those who are sticking on 1.29 until 2.0 is fully finished? There never was going to be kwismas island anyways  |
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November 30, 2009, 21:45:12 |
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The only thing 2.0 had to do with Kwismas island not coming out was it was tying up time and resources from coding it. There have been so many AI changes in the past year that Kwismas monsters are horribly out of date, but with 2.0 rush to be put out Developers and the techy people (yes that is my super-technical word..its mine!) have not had time to re-do Kwismas monsters AI. Pushing back the official global release date will not change this fact. so No, no kwismas this year
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November 30, 2009, 21:47:12 |
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Quote (KA-Dofus @ 30 November 2009 21:36) As for moving between servers, I can't see why it would be a problem to move back and forth, at least once all servers are 2.0 complainant, via the ogrine system that among many other features is supposed to allow players to move characters to other servers via spending ogrine. hmm, you read something I did not. Link please? As to this whole situation: yeah why not split international community to even more half empty servers? I mean I understand why Ankama did this, but I would rather see them humbly admit their fail and not to try to make it look better this way. |
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November 30, 2009, 21:57:59 |
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LooooOOOOOoooooL, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to announce a release date before Closed Beta had properly started (no sound for the first few weeks on purpose, huh?).
Anyway, 1. Dofus 2.0 is apparently "unready" 2. New server is Dofus 2.0 codebase... 3. Isn't creating a character there basically asking for something to go wrong with it? Aren't we continually being told "oh there's no need for a new Int/En server becuase ..."? |
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November 30, 2009, 21:59:37 |
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Quote (Piriel @ 30 November 2009 21:11) How many times were you fired dude, if ignoring deadlines is ok in your software developer book? As a software developer myself I must say you have quite a few problems hitting the keys right. Bit scared of seeing a piece of your code. Might have more spelling errors than programming ones >.> Now you're just being rude. And yeah, deadlines are deadlines, and they can be reasonably predicted in most cases. But usually the more complex a piece of software is, the more chances there are of unforseen glitches creeping in. Most of the project-management schemes these days (Scrum et al) allow for fuzzy estimations on large projects, and rightly so. I imagine that an MMO, especially one that is somewhat reliant on the request-response nature of HTTP (rather than processing a continuous stream of data) can get a tad hairy. The 2 December launch date was probably decided on ages ago, and the closer it got, the more unattainable it became.But anyway, my post was more just an attempt to provide a counter to the "amagad u r teh suxx whers my game?" type nonsense that usually gets shot at the devs when this type of announcement is made, and usually by people with no clue what goes into a project of this size. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:15:19 |
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Quote (meatraw @ 30 November 2009 14:47) hmm, you read something I did not. Link please? As to this whole situation: yeah why not split international community to even more half empty servers? I mean I understand why Ankama did this, but I would rather see them humbly admit their fail and not to try to make it look better this way. Hmmm... I thought I had seen this announced but can't find it. Perhaps I am recalling a post regarding services desired, but I can only find official mention of adding character slots, and changing character colours, name and gender... and a hint of other services to come after 2.0 is no longer consuming their focus. So, it appears that I was in error as I can find no official confirmation sever transfers will be on offer. However, I wouldn't be surprised if such would be available in the future as an added service. It would be a logical extension of ogrine services as it is offered by many MMO companies. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:17:45 |
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Quote (SonOfShadows @ 30 November 2009 19:27) PLEASE TELL ME WHY!!! I'm looking through the new site and the new characters and I come across cras and their spells... and I see... every single attack spell they have is LINEAR?! Then, I look at other characters, characters I know have spells that were not linear and I see... MORE linear spells. It's really gonna suck for Xelors that went from Dark Ray to Hand when they see... oh no, HAND is linear too. You know, Ankama does a lot of cool stuff... a nice amount of sugar. But when it comes to medicine, you guys really ruin things. ugh... I really think I've had enough of Dofus. Later Just wanted to note here on this issue - the spells are not changing, it's a mistake on the Community Site. Don't panic. -DS- |
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November 30, 2009, 22:18:09 |
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Quote (KA-Dofus @ 30 November 2009 23:15) Hmmm... I thought I had seen this announced but can't find it. Perhaps I am recalling a post regarding services desired, but I can only find official mention of adding character slots, and changing character colours, name and gender... and a hint of other services to come after 2.0 is no longer consuming their focus. So, it appears that I was in error as I can find no official confirmation sever transfers will be on offer. However, I wouldn't be surprised if such would be available in the future as an added service. It would be a logical extension of ogrine services as it is offered by many MMO companies. I believe I read on Imps Village a post speculating when the dev's added "and other features" to their blog, it was speculated that it might be a server transfer..perhaps that is what you were thinking of? |
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November 30, 2009, 22:23:03 |
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Quote (Buggabug @ 30 November 2009 15:18) I believe I read on Imps Village a post speculating when the dev's added "and other features" to their blog, it was speculated that it might be a server transfer..perhaps that is what you were thinking of? I haven't been to Imps for awhile, so that wouldn't be it. I'm not sure why I made the error. Fortunately meatraw brought it to my attention. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:26:24 |
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Quote (KA-Dofus @ 30 November 2009 23:23) I haven't been to Imps for awhile, so that wouldn't be it. I'm not sure why I made the error. Fortunately meatraw brought it to my attention. I hope when I read the forums in few months it will still be "error" and not a fact. Would be fun tho the way markets work (unless thatwould be part of change as well). Swap to Rushu, buy haxorz equip swap back xD. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:28:27 |
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Quote (GoldfishGod @ 30 November 2009 21:57) 1. Dofus 2.0 is apparently "unready" 2. New server is Dofus 2.0 codebase... 3. Isn't creating a character there basically asking for something to go wrong with it? Sure, but it'll be with a new character rather than one which some of us have spent years working on, and it won't disrupt our normal playing. Also, those of us who either want to try 2.0 or want to try playing character classes we've never been able to play before have a shot at doing so. Having played the beta for awhile, I wasn't sure which I was more worried about, 2.0 being released or 2.0 not being released - it's gotten a lot better in recent times, but still has some serious problems (Clearing the cache, for example, hoses the install, no sound, etc). People have been pretty impatient though. Pushing forward with 2.0 would be very messy, but people arn't happy with no deliverables at all. I'm probably going to make a few characters on the new server to goof around - I've never had an Iop or Sram, and I've also never seen a young server. I imagine (hope) that they'll lift the character limit to give us space for this. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:30:37 |
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Quote (GoldfishGod @ 30 November 2009 22:57) Aren't we continually being told "oh there's no need for a new Int/En server becuase ..."? I look at it as an opportunity for the International population to prove that we DO need a new server! It's been a top request for quite some time, at least one or two threads every week or so, so let's get going and fill that server up! As far as the split launch goes, today's report says it all. The 2.0 release is currently playable, but in comparison to 1.29, it's still not up to our ideal for a major release. The purpose for us splitting the release in this way is to satisfy players as much as possible, so that you do not take 2.0 as a pressure forced upon you by Ankama, but as an improvement to the game that you can enjoy and feel excited about. At the same time, those who have embraced 2.0 with open arms will not be left hugging the empty air, but will have an exciting new server to grown and expand on until the older servers are ready to make the switch. |
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November 30, 2009, 22:33:13 |
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Quote ([MOD]Raiu @ 30 November 2009 23:17) Just wanted to note here on this issue - the spells are not changing, it's a mistake on the Community Site. Don't panic. -DS- It was a mistake, it seems that negativity is wasted  . Be positive people! At least your not a poor sod out on the street with nothing to hold on to. Lets not be spoiled about it and be understanding about it. When it comes it comes in the meantime stick to 1.29 and eventually it'll be transfered to 2.0. Like they said New Server is for people who wants to get their hands on it right away but the other servers will transfer when it is ready little by little step by step. You don't go from being 3 years old to 7 right? |
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