Finally, my level 19x iop will be fun to play. I even went pure wis/int instead of pure strength because I became bored of str iop after 170 levels of it. Will the damage still be much more variable than it is for agi and intel spells? For example, Sword of Iop has such variable damage that it's only useful for AoE attacks.

What options does iop have that allow for non-linear attacks? Right now, there are none besides Strength Storm which I think should be given adjustable range ;D

Also, to SaskeNator: one class at a time ;D

So Iop vs. Iop basically means that no wraths are going to happen. And already, it's hard enough (it is impossible, actually) to wrath anyone unless they can't count to 4.

im a lvl 134 iop and this update will take my mace hammer hits from 892 a swing down to 762 sounds supercool looooool

Yeah that spell is alot over the top... I really dislike the idea of undodgeable MP removal.

Each update gets worse, you've wrathed a good game...

Power: the spell bonus has been increased, with a shorter duration. The objective is to provide a bonus to damages in a wayto make its casting significant, all the while offering a shorter duration to the spell.

WTF?! 150 damage% to all elements its not significant? Are you kidding me? I hope the new power will increase the spell and the weapon too.

I don't linke the new mutilation, In my opinion the old mutilation is the best power up for an earth iop. Is it necessary to change? :X

I'm an iop and I dont like very well this update. Well, I'm waiting for the beta


This post has been edited by Matt5150 - August 30, 2012, 01:31:13.

we are all annoyed by losing the old mutilation, but i never used divine sword as a team buff before, and will be useing it from now on, with the update and the increse in the divine swords +damage you are probley looking at+60dam a turn for four turns so its pretty decent ,on top of the boost to the power spell but for a shorter duration


This post has been edited by snaxy - August 30, 2012, 02:02:19.

Making the dumbest class to play strategic.. 

But what if the new spell "Friction" can still pull the target back to the Iop? In the example, the Iop managed to pull the target from 5 tiles away (assuming 4 cast of Friction)... I wonder how many AP cost to cast friction though, they might not have enough AP to cast Wrath in that case.

If I have already reset from wisdom to strength (around lvl 100) and I don't get all of my invested points back I will be pissed. Your changing the class so much that people may not want to be the type of iop they are anymore. I invest points in Increase and friction doesn't really seem like it is that great of a spell, especially for the strength type attacks witch don't have that great of a range anyway. So if someone is like lvl 150 and they want to switch after hearing this and they can't because they only got invested points from the changed spells back I think you may be getting a lot of complaints.

wow that's dumb completely changing the class and probably which element half of people are going to want to change to but no magic orb just another dumb idea of ankama of course

i wonder if they'll issue a change for enu and osa classes (and maybe nerf down some of the damage from agility cras and srams)

Osa changes = vetoed.  

You do understand the point of the spell, right? It's supposed to lock the Iop's opponent in place, so the Iop can just sit there and swing at them with no way for them to escape. Or, as an Iop, do you prefer it when your opponent runs around, forcing you to waste all your AP on Jump each turn?


And you know that... how, exactly? Power's effect is being increased, so are you taking that into account, or are you using the old Power values?

Why are people trying to calculate how much their damage has changed when they don't have all the numbers to do the math with? How could you possibly know that A+B+C+D+E is bigger than A+F, when you don't have any way to know what F is?

I think that need to take a step back, calm down, and see what the actual changes end up playing out like before raging how Iops are garbage. They changed a few buffs that most people didn't use, if you don't like the new spells then don't use them. They didn't change wrath and Iops will still hit like trucks with cc.

If they release the update and it turns out that they fucked up the Iops royally, then bash away. But at least give them a shot.


This post has been edited by Revil-Nunor - August 30, 2012, 04:51:21.

Toads still getting nurfed  

Let's wait and see how much "nerfing" goes on first. Taking a few points away from toad in pvp isn't the end of the world.


This post has been edited by Revil-Nunor - August 30, 2012, 04:52:58.

I sure hope its not nurfed too badly

That is not how the spell friction works, you cast friction on a target and then every time the effected target takes damage from a spell in a linear position they will move closer by 1 cell each time they take damage. So you would have to be Linear and cast most likely leak pie to draw in a target from range.

Hopefully they don't require that you have to cast strength spells or only allow the iop to draw people closer. That would be totally lame.

It says at the beginning that all spell points will be returned...

will we get an orb this time maybe

Osa's Do need a buff >.>

congratulations ankama, you've finally taken all the fun out of this game for me , goodbye

Would a 3-hit attack draw someone 3 squares? Also hope power isn't 4ap still... 4ap is already alot to cast for it's current buff. power should be better than powerful shooting.. xD so similar buffing but affect weapons is more than fair. we'll see, but I really hope the damage upgrades on spells results in less random damage too. ^^

Finally the order you get things is going to make sense...

Oh! That would be even better than imagined... Now a player who push the Iop away will be drawn closer using multiple 2 AP leek pies.


This post has been edited by Gunnerswan - August 30, 2012, 06:41:55.

Well, wait and see what kind or restrictions it has. 3 squares max or something, and using 3 leek pies to move 3 squares is still 6 ap used.

i think pandawa can get a some new spell designs (only animations) to, because only melancholy and tipple look good

but when it will be ??

Well we can only hope that other classes get similar revamps *looks at ecas*

Dear Ankama,

I really think that cras should have a teleporting spell, or a close combat spell, or any spell which keeps them away from other characters. If we go into close combat, we are basically helpless. Please consider this. Thank You

they took so much to revamp one class...we need a time machine

@rreinierr:
then go chance on your panda

@ Heptoriam:
Do you make fun of me? how do you play cra when u say it is helpless when CC. there are several spells allowing cra to push enemy back and lose huge amount of mp, with trophies its muche more easier to make them lose mp. Haven't you noticed 3 spells allowing cra to move a target, spell stealing huge mp and other one stealing mp? Anyway you cant say cra dosnt hit hard on CC, many dags, hammers or swords are too dangerous with buff they have, consider it is RAGED class

change cra spells plzi need sow much mace magic it lvl 31 36 and 42 plz new magic i have a iop agi but i need a cra spels whay you do not a teleport spel

lol concentration lvl 21 xD

finally , I've had this iop for 4 years and the only options that I had with it were, jump 2x strength storm, 2x celestial sword or jump close combat

@heptorian wtf cras helpless in cc? what are you saying? cras have the strongest cc of all classes if they're buffed so don't try to whine about that

And this is when i will quit dofus. -.-

IF YOU WILL DO ALL THESE CHANGES I WILL QUIT MY IOP AND MAKE A SRAM!!!!!!!!! :@

And i dont care new changes.. i dont want dofus to be changed at all.. except cra buffs
Iops were perfect..
Why you nerfed them

Strength Iops will remain the same in my opinion the only change you shouldnt like being strength is Mutilation, you will get Concentration at lower level now, also all the Strength spells damage is going to be increased, would you all stop wining for once? I don't really think that if hundeds of DOFUS players don't like the Iop changes they will listen to you and change just for those amount of players (knowing that millions of others like the changes).


-Yen.

this thread is called Iop Balancing in 2.8 so plase don,t post suggestions for other classes here ,we still have to wait for the Beta server to be updated and the feedback to the devs before any of this goes lives on the real server...so yea chill 

I think you guys should change the eniripsa class spell its not fair pretty much anyone could get away from it. You should also make agility enis hit a bit harder with same ap cost it would be awesome and may allow for more people to choose this fun build and for less discrimination.

Hmmm... they are changing the Iops so much. I have one that is just for professions on it at the moment because I cant get a group for Otomai.
Would really like to make use of this, but unfortunately no magic Orb = no reset :/

all the holy gods thanks a lot ive got an iop 199lvl and just like a shit IM HAPPY FINALY THEY R CHANCING!

inna way im glad there nerfing the iops now my chance cra might actually stand a chance against an iop but int iops might be as good as dead but then again dofus is random like making my agi cra fight lvl 120's in kolo when its only lvl 71

Lame

Pffff they have only changed 1 decent spell, that being mutilation and now for some reason people think that str iops are destroyed and unusable? You have to be kidding me?!


This post has been edited by Mushroom-Alliance - August 30, 2012, 21:12:42.

Oh and if a Panda on your team goes before you... Poutch + wrath

There will be allways haters -- anyway ill see in 2.8,maybe ill startrto play with my old lvl 124 iop...